correct it will still have unwanted stress on the liver.. even when IM. just to a lesser degree.
Is Trest also the same as Trest Ace? I purchase the PRE brand. Just purchased all the support compounds for my run. Caber capsules, Nolva Serm, and already have on hand Arimidex. Think I should run the Nolva from day 1 as a precaution or only if I have gyno type issues? Also, if high estrogen flares up do you bust out both the AI and Serm?Hell, you could run trest for 10-12 weeks if you like. But I think you'll probably get the most of it by week 8 in a blast. If you look around here there are guys that have cruised on trest ace for months....I know with the IM version but i believe TD as well. But they are the same drug, just different ways of application. Tons of logs and drug pages - use the search feature.
Trest is MENT. Trest ace has the acetate esther attached to allow a chance for more steady blood levels but still have a quick effect. Trest is NOT methylated. Methyls are the 17-a steroids with the alkyl group. Trest is a 7a-methyl-19. But I see where you got that from. Biggest problem usually seen with trest is estrogen issues and not liver stress. Should be a good combo for you just be sure to have all those support supps on hand on day 1.
Gotcha. I can know running an AI just for preventative measures isn’t wise because it tanks lipids further and decreases estrogen which is useful for muscle building and if it bottoms out too low it will make you feel like crap, but why is running a Serm just for preventative measures a bad idea since it only blocks estrogen to certain parts of the body, rather than stopping its production like an AI does? Don’t know if it makes a difference in your answer, but should add I’m on trt so would not need Serm for PCT.
As far as a.i. and serm....bottom line - dont use unless needed. Not a fan of dosing "just because"....and find the minimum effective dose if it is needed.
Lower IGF-1, increased risk of blood clots, mood issues. Serms suck.Gotcha. I can know running an AI just for preventative measures isn’t wise because it tanks lipids further and decreases estrogen which is useful for muscle building and if it bottoms out too low it will make you feel like crap, but why is running a Serm just for preventative measures a bad idea since it only blocks estrogen to certain parts of the body, rather than stopping its production like an AI does? Don’t know if it makes a difference in your answer, but should add I’m on trt so would not need Serm for PCT.
I'll give you my answer - I'm sure someone can chime in with a more medically sound response - my reason is simply based on my knowledge and experience...Gotcha. I can know running an AI just for preventative measures isn’t wise because it tanks lipids further and decreases estrogen which is useful for muscle building and if it bottoms out too low it will make you feel like crap, but why is running a Serm just for preventative measures a bad idea since it only blocks estrogen to certain parts of the body, rather than stopping its production like an AI does? Don’t know if it makes a difference in your answer, but should add I’m on trt so would not need Serm for PCT.
Ok well I’ll just say it can be very difficilt. I’ve read of lots of people that couldn’t do it and knew that going in. I can run a gram of test no problem and .5 adex two to thre times a week would be plenty. Have run 500 to 600 mg a week of test with nothing to combat estro and was fine. The amount of Adex I threw at it I should have sore joints and no sex drive by now but I’m fine. Everybody said keep Ralox on hand. Didn’t have it in hand and was t worried because I had nova. Lol I’m not even sure it would of worked at 40 mgs if I didn’t lower the trest dose. Either way I’d recommend keeping Ralox on hand just in case. Lots of reports of it knocking out trest gyno quick.who told you that you cant control the estrogen with an AI?.. just because you couldn't, doesn't mean others cant.