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6 Week Fat Loss Challenge

Alpha1agreda said:
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I was somehow 50 pages behind lmfao
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cause your looking for Halloween costumes and playing dress up and spending long nights with

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FireTitan said:
That Sir is the plan!! Whats the worst thing that can happen? It breaks? Oh, wait. Lol. Gym time by 0800, and more ink work at 1400. Its going to be a great day!
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Are you getting our names tattooed on your arse?
 
Not to derail, but quick fat loss update. Horrible day yesterday. Used a diff PWO and I think the stims mixed with Shred took me out. Migraine from 5pm to 9pm then again from 10pm to 330am. Always fun breathing through the pain and trying not to throw up.

Woke up this morning wiped out and feeling sickly. Skipped my Shred today. I know my body likes it, but just needed to get back to normal first. Then I dosed my trusty RagNOrok PWO recipe and hit the weights. I was able to get a normal workout in even feeling off.

Barely ate last night, which means at all since I eat all my cals at night. Today I've been adding snacks. And I granted myself sushi and pad Thai tonight with the family. Needed some carbs and substance in my body. Feeling almost normal tonight.

If I split today and yesterday's intake, I'm probably at a normal deficit. Workouts still keeping me at the 3000 burn / day.

Here's hoping for a better finish to the week!
 
habajaba said:
Not to derail, but quick fat loss update. Horrible day yesterday. Used a diff PWO and I think the stims mixed with Shred took me out. Migraine from 5pm to 9pm then again from 10pm to 330am. Always fun breathing through the pain and trying not to throw up.

Woke up this morning wiped out and feeling sickly. Skipped my Shred today. I know my body likes it, but just needed to get back to normal first. Then I dosed my trusty RagNOrok PWO recipe and hit the weights. I was able to get a normal workout in even feeling off.

Barely ate last night, which means at all since I eat all my cals at night. Today I've been adding snacks. And I granted myself sushi and pad Thai tonight with the family. Needed some carbs and substance in my body. Feeling almost normal tonight.

If I split today and yesterday's intake, I'm probably at a normal deficit. Workouts still keeping me at the 3000 burn / day.

Here's hoping for a better finish to the week!
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migraines are my krytonyte - feel ya bro
 
habajaba said:
Not to derail, but quick fat loss update. Horrible day yesterday. Used a diff PWO and I think the stims mixed with Shred took me out. Migraine from 5pm to 9pm then again from 10pm to 330am. Always fun breathing through the pain and trying not to throw up.

Woke up this morning wiped out and feeling sickly. Skipped my Shred today. I know my body likes it, but just needed to get back to normal first. Then I dosed my trusty RagNOrok PWO recipe and hit the weights. I was able to get a normal workout in even feeling off.

Barely ate last night, which means at all since I eat all my cals at night. Today I've been adding snacks. And I granted myself sushi and pad Thai tonight with the family. Needed some carbs and substance in my body. Feeling almost normal tonight.

If I split today and yesterday's intake, I'm probably at a normal deficit. Workouts still keeping me at the 3000 burn / day.

Here's hoping for a better finish to the week!
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Chalk it up as a lesson learned and move on hombre!! You know youre a boss!!
 
Well guys, back from San Diego. No idea what my weight is and no intention of checking it until this coming Monday. Give me a few days to work off what I'm sure I packed on!
 
ma70 said:
Zero stims here. Soon, I'll be popping the caffeine tablets (200mg).
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Does NOT sound delicious ... I am sipping on Orange StarKrush BLOODSHR3D with my lunch this week:outtahere:
 
GNO said:
Does NOT sound delicious ... I am sipping on Orange StarKrush BLOODSHR3D with my lunch this week:outtahere:
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Haha, I'm saving the best stuff for last. I don't want to depend on stims too early. This is going to be a 5 month cut.
 
MrKleen73 said:
I used to think that way but when you get the basics right you find you don't need anywhere near the supps you think you do for success. The supplement marketing machine is there to make you feel dependent on your supplements. If you buy in you often get the same results but they cost a lot more.



In bold this is a 100% true statement. Often the having something to lose portion of purchasing supplements and not making the most of them offers accountability. However if you can develop your own accountability you don't have to buy tons of supplements to get the same results. Now there are supps out there that make a difference but often people only give their all when logging for a company, or spent a ton on supps. Imagine if they applied that same level of accountability at all times how much further along they would be.


Swelling causes water retention.




Could have to do with the dairy in your diet. In all honestly that breakfast would benefit you much more if you had 5-6 whole eggs, and no yogurt, or whey for breakfast. Since fat loss is the goal keep the carbs away from breakfast. The high protein and fat meal will set you up for anabolism, and better insulin sensitivity throughout the day.


Yeah 18 is ridiculous!!!! I remember that crap from back in the day. Now between 5-10mg of Yohimbine pre cardio is probably the best time to use it.
The A-Y is supposed to last a bit longer if I remember correctly. Has been years since I read up on it.


No need for all of that. Not that it is a problem. When using shakes use Isolate, you don't get the water retention like you do from WPC. Reacting to water fluctuations during fat loss can make you feel like you are on a see-saw. Do what it takes to minimize these things by using the best supplement for the job. At this point in your weight loss I really don't see responding to water fluctuations as beneficial. Did you replace the calories you removed when you took the protein shakes out of your diet? If not then you just increased the deficit which was already a pretty big one. I would at a minimum replace some of those calories with a good fat source.

Again, startingyour day with 5-6 whole eggs, especially vegetarian fed so they have higher Omega 3's would be for more beneficial for you than the yogurt with whey protein. It sets you up for protein synthesis and fat burning. This is what you want.

This is why I mentioned the way the PMSF diet was written was for 2 weeks at a time with 2 weeks maintenance in between them. Lyle knows you need to recover and increase leptin stores if you want to keep the metabolism from slowing down as much. If you keep digging a whole, and never rest after a while it seems like you can't even get a grain of sand on the shovel. That is not about metabolic damage, that is simply the bodies own self preservation system. Don't feel bad about it, you pushed it like crazy but in the end it was not a healthy goal, and although it could have been done, in this case the burn out came before the goal was reached.

Amen!

Can I kick you in the shin for insisting on making this harder for yourself. Self torture is not the only way, and is definitely not the most efficient! PLEASE TAKE 2 WEEKS AT MAINTENANCE!!!!! Then get back on it with a smaller deficit. Stop with the marathon cardio sessions. They are far from healthy and do nothing to get you towards a lean and powerful physique. Lean maybe but skinny fat is where you are headed if you keep your deficits so low. You have the resolve, apply some of that to trying to be more efficient rather than just constantly pushing harder and harder. Before trying to prove other theories wrong by doing what you are doing try proving the theories correct. See what kind of success you get there, then you will have something to truly compare for your notes on whether metabolic damage or slowdown has a real effect on the results you get.

From where you are my personal opinion is that if you want to get leaner then you need to do it with a small a deficit as you can get away with. Keep your performance and muscle growth on point by eating the best things for you at the best times to eat them. Surround your training with food, and carbs. Keep carbs lower at other times during the day. Start with a high fat moderate protein breakfast. Increase your carbs around training first to get back up to maintenance, keep protein substantial enough for growth, and fats low to moderate. If done correctly you can gain muscle and lose fat at the same time making for a much better physique.



It is like $5 for two blocks at academy.
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Your posts are always gold my man. And of course you can kick me in the shin. I shouldn't be the only one having all the fun of punishing me!

I am just an on off guy...it is hard for me to not go all out. It is the exact problem I had with the cardio ...started off with a little because it was hard and within 2 weeks was going for 1.5 hours twice a day because I just kept getting to a point where I could push a little bit more.

I am listening....I will try to be more reasonable.

MrKleen73 said:
I know brother, I am a busy guy, and when i do come back I actually take the time to catch up on this log which means 30 minutes of reading. I don't typically post at all on weekends, and this weekend I had my first Powerlifting meet. So I took a few extra days off last week and then yesterday for some extra recovery.

Since we are all posting up updates here is mine from this weekend. Not fat loss related but I am proud as hell!!!!

I competed in my first Powerlifting Meet this weekend up in Austin @ the RPS Texas Gainzsaw Massacre Power Lifting meet. I won 2 medals and a plaque!!!!

1st Place Raw Classic Open Division 220 weight class

1st Place Raw Classic Masters 40-44 Age Division 220 weight class

Best Raw Classic Lifter Award – this is figured out by dividing the total weight lifted by the lifters body weight. Whoever was strongest pound for pound wins this plaque. It is a bigger deal than either of the 1st place medals!!!! I was very excited to be there and shocked to take the medals and plaque home with me!

Here is a quick video of all three of my top lifts.

[video=youtube;Rg6FbJ14nIA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rg6FbJ14nIA[/video]

Squats 501.5 lbs
Bench Press 358.3 lbs
Dead Lifts 606.3 lbs
Total 1466.1 lbs
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Brother. That is so impressive. When I see you in public, I am going to point and yell, "I know him!"

FireTitan said:
Been a busy day. Gotta get the finger looked at tomorrow, its still getting blacker. But racquetball today. Gotta go do training so ill uldate more later, but habajaba do I pass the sweat test? Invalid Link Removed
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Such great great work. You are making awesome progress.

ma70 said:
Weighing in at 207.6 today. Huge cal deficits for fast progress.....whoo! Feeling tired and lethargic though, as expected.
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It will pass....keep at it. Impressed with the approach so far.

ma70 said:
Hah, I'm only just getting started! I've done deficits like this before. I just need this thread to keep me more accountable than usual!
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Tell us more about what you are doing....details?

FireTitan said:
Good news/ bad news/ good news guys! The knuckle itself is NOT broken! However, the the end section of the finger is broken in 2 places. Nothing can be done about it, so time to suck it up and get to pulling again, first thing in the morning !!!
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You are a beast my man!

habajaba said:
Not to derail, but quick fat loss update. Horrible day yesterday. Used a diff PWO and I think the stims mixed with Shred took me out. Migraine from 5pm to 9pm then again from 10pm to 330am. Always fun breathing through the pain and trying not to throw up.

Woke up this morning wiped out and feeling sickly. Skipped my Shred today. I know my body likes it, but just needed to get back to normal first. Then I dosed my trusty RagNOrok PWO recipe and hit the weights. I was able to get a normal workout in even feeling off.

Barely ate last night, which means at all since I eat all my cals at night. Today I've been adding snacks. And I granted myself sushi and pad Thai tonight with the family. Needed some carbs and substance in my body. Feeling almost normal tonight.

If I split today and yesterday's intake, I'm probably at a normal deficit. Workouts still keeping me at the 3000 burn / day.

Here's hoping for a better finish to the week!
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Those bad days always hit right at the worst times. It will pass. Just work it through and rest as needed and then get back in track.

I am starting to hear back up. Planning on something more reasonable ...maybe something where I cycle calories a little.
 
ma70 said:
Haha, I'm saving the best stuff for last. I don't want to depend on stims too early. This is going to be a 5 month cut.
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5 month cut? Are you competing or something?
 
HIT4ME said:
Your posts are always gold my man. And of course you can kick me in the shin. I shouldn't be the only one having all the fun of punishing me!

I am just an on off guy...it is hard for me to not go all out. It is the exact problem I had with the cardio ...started off with a little because it was hard and within 2 weeks was going for 1.5 hours twice a day because I just kept getting to a point where I could push a little bit more.

I am listening....I will try to be more reasonable.



Brother. That is so impressive. When I see you in public, I am going to point and yell, "I know him!"



Such great great work. You are making awesome progress.



It will pass....keep at it. Impressed with the approach so far.



Tell us more about what you are doing....details?



You are a beast my man!



Those bad days always hit right at the worst times. It will pass. Just work it through and rest as needed and then get back in track.

I am starting to hear back up. Planning on something more reasonable ...maybe something where I cycle calories a little.
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Thanks brother! Glad to see you on here!
 
Thanks man. Good to be here. I've just been laying low and relaxing. Getting geared up to rejoin the festivities!
 
HIT4ME said:
Thanks man. Good to be here. I've just been laying low and relaxing. Getting geared up to rejoin the festivities!
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Good to see you back man
 
GNO said:
5 month cut? Are you competing or something?
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For once, I want to dip into single digits for the experience, and a tiny bit of vanity. I started around 15%/211 lbs.

Also, HIT4ME, I am on mobile, but I will explain my approach tomorrow.
 
ma70 said:
For once, I want to dip into single digits for the experience, and a tiny bit of vanity. I started around 15%/211 lbs.

Also, HIT4ME, I am on mobile, but I will explain my approach tomorrow.
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Gotcha. I am in the 15% range after 3 months of a heavy bulk (put on 25lbs)...I just prefer short cuts so I don't drive myself to commit suicide.
 
GNO said:
Gotcha. I am in the 15% range after 3 months of a heavy bulk (put on 25lbs)...I just prefer short cuts so I don't drive myself to commit suicide.
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I am coming off a 12 week bulk where I gained 1 lb per week, and I also prefer short cuts as well, but just this once and this year, I am going to take on this challenge. I will be focusing less on training next year and more on other aspects of life, so its now or never
 
ma70 said:
I am coming off a 12 week bulk where I gained 1 lb per week, and I also prefer short cuts as well, but just this once and this year, I am going to take on this challenge. I will be focusing less on training next year and more on other aspects of life, so its now or never
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Fair enough! But training is lifeeeeeee
 
Just out if curiosity, what do you guys think I need to try and keep my daily carbs at or below? Im fluctuating with them(unintentionally) and need a good guideline for that. I really dont want to be in ketosis, simply because my work can at times be very strenuous, and I have no choice but to deal with the general public and cant be COMPLETELY irritable.
 
Personally on a cut I try and keep carbs around 70-80g but certainly less than 100g only going sub 50 towards the end of a cut.
 
Just found out something spectacular!!!! I have 1.5 hours left on this here ambulance, and Im starving!! The only thing open in this God forsaken town is Mcdonalds! I despise Mcdonalds! BUT, if you ask, theyll make you a platter of 6 eggs, the round Or scrambled!!!! Who knew!? Its not cheap, I paid enough to buy almost 3 dozen, but when you're hungry, might get a call at any moment , and its youre only option... It works, and it wasnt a fricken mcmuffin!
 
FireTitan said:
It is when your contemplating raiding the food cabinet of the next patient you run!! Lol
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LMFAO! I can see it now. QUEUE Dream Sequence! (You had to know this was coming at you)

PR = Patient's Relative, FT = FireTitan :D

PR: Sir, what are you doing in my food cabinet?
FT: Uhm, I was assessing the potential cause of the patient's issues....
PR: There's nothing in there but yummy treats, and carb heavy foods, and he's having a heart attack!
FT: I know, these are just the things to cause that. I'm going to have to confiscate these to study, and have analyzed. It's for his own benefit. Don't argue with me, I'm a professional! Now where do you keep the hard boiled eggs?!
PR: We don't have any?
FT: My god man, what is going on in this place? I bet you are going to say there's no peanut butter, or even some left overs in the fridge?!!! (Pokes head in the fridge.)
PR: Uhm...
FT: Never mind. We're clear here. There's hope after all. (Loads up arms) I'll report back later this week. Get some eggs....
 
FireTitan said:
HIT4ME clear your inbox
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Sorry, cleared, just for you my man.

FireTitan said:
Just out if curiosity, what do you guys think I need to try and keep my daily carbs at or below? Im fluctuating with them(unintentionally) and need a good guideline for that. I really dont want to be in ketosis, simply because my work can at times be very strenuous, and I have no choice but to deal with the general public and cant be COMPLETELY irritable.
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Personally, I think carbs are over scrutinized. If you are in a caloric deficit and have sufficient protein, you are a good way there. Carbs and fats can fluctuate, IMO, to whatever keeps you in a deficit. But again, this hinges on having high protein and low calories.

Reducing carbs may give you a slight edge, but it isn't as big a part of the game as people want to believe. It's a fine tuning factor, not a success factor. Just like you can do cardio fasted, and it might give an edge, but it won't be a game changer.

More important to make sure the carbs you do get are quality and not sugary junk. 100 g a day is a great goal for a 1200-1300 cal diet.

justhere4comm said:
LMFAO! I can see it now. QUEUE Dream Sequence! (You had to know this was coming at you)

PR = Patient's Relative, FT = FireTitan :D

PR: Sir, what are you doing in my food cabinet?
FT: Uhm, I was assessing the potential cause of the patient's issues....
PR: There's nothing in there but yummy treats, and carb heavy foods, and he's having a heart attack!
FT: I know, these are just the things to cause that. I'm going to have to confiscate these to study, and have analyzed. It's for his own benefit. Don't argue with me, I'm a professional! Now where do you keep the hard boiled eggs?!
PR: We don't have any?
FT: My god man, what is going on in this place? I bet you are going to say there's no peanut butter, or even some left overs in the fridge?!!! (Pokes head in the fridge.)
PR: Uhm...
FT: Never mind. We're clear here. There's hope after all. (Loads up arms) I'll report back later this week. Get some eggs....
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This was awesome. You really are a creative writer...can I hire yiu to ghost write my posts?

ma70 said:
Damn I'm dry this morning. Woke up at 205.
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ma70 = results.

I am gearing up guys. Going to try to keep the junk in check. The last week has been insane for me. Just crazy rebound hunger. It is subsiding but my entire mentality was different and I couldn't get control...so now I know some limits and what not to do.

Just a bump and a set back and I am kicking around a modified strategy.

Thinking of making 2 days a week around 600-800 calories, 3 days around 1300 calories, 2 days at 2500 calories. Nothing set in stone. Protein will be about the same on the low calorie days but much higher on the 1300 and 2500 calorie days. This should lead to a weekly intake of around 10,500 calories. My goal is to do enough exercise to average 3000 calories/day burned. That should give me a 10,500 calorie deficit per week. It should also give me some flexibility 2 days a week and keep hormones in check.
 
GNO said:
Does NOT sound delicious ... I am sipping on Orange StarKrush BLOODSHR3D with my lunch this week:outtahere:
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I am looking forward to trying out the Orange StarKrush I won as a tasty alternative to my favorite (capsule based) burner, Shred. Considering you're sipping on it, I'm assuming mine is on the way? :)
 
FireTitan said:
Ok, Ive been trying to keep it under 100, although I ended up +30 today. I just wanted to make sure I was on the right page. Thanks
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My "template" meal plan in myfitnesspal for this challenge is 1250cal, 70g carbs, 150g protein, 40g fat. That actually breaks down to 45/25/30, but my real goal was just to design something at 1250 that I could live with and keep relatively close to the macros I was looking for. If anything, I try and keep the carbs the same and give myself more protein/fat if I am going to add cals. But under 100g carbs for sure, unless I'm cheating.
 
habajaba said:
My "template" meal plan in myfitnesspal for this challenge is 1250cal, 70g carbs, 150g protein, 40g fat. That actually breaks down to 45/25/30, but my real goal was just to design something at 1250 that I could live with and keep relatively close to the macros I was looking for. If anything, I try and keep the carbs the same and give myself more protein/fat if I am going to add cals. But under 100g carbs for sure, unless I'm cheating.
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Its actually a good looking plan
 
justhere4comm said:
LMFAO! I can see it now. QUEUE Dream Sequence! (You had to know this was coming at you)

PR = Patient's Relative, FT = FireTitan :D

PR: Sir, what are you doing in my food cabinet?
FT: Uhm, I was assessing the potential cause of the patient's issues....
PR: There's nothing in there but yummy treats, and carb heavy foods, and he's having a heart attack!
FT: I know, these are just the things to cause that. I'm going to have to confiscate these to study, and have analyzed. It's for his own benefit. Don't argue with me, I'm a professional! Now where do you keep the hard boiled eggs?!
PR: We don't have any?
FT: My god man, what is going on in this place? I bet you are going to say there's no peanut butter, or even some left overs in the fridge?!!! (Pokes head in the fridge.)
PR: Uhm...
FT: Never mind. We're clear here. There's hope after all. (Loads up arms) I'll report back later this week. Get some eggs....
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This is awesome!! You're definitely talented. But in all honesty, do you think I could get away with doing this? Lol
 
HIT4ME said:
Sorry, cleared, just for you my man.



Personally, I think carbs are over scrutinized. If you are in a caloric deficit and have sufficient protein, you are a good way there. Carbs and fats can fluctuate, IMO, to whatever keeps you in a deficit. But again, this hinges on having high protein and low calories.

Reducing carbs may give you a slight edge, but it isn't as big a part of the game as people want to believe. It's a fine tuning factor, not a success factor. Just like you can do cardio fasted, and it might give an edge, but it won't be a game changer.

More important to make sure the carbs you do get are quality and not sugary junk. 100 g a day is a great goal for a 1200-1300 cal diet.



This was awesome. You really are a creative writer...can I hire yiu to ghost write my posts?


ma70 = results.

I am gearing up guys. Going to try to keep the junk in check. The last week has been insane for me. Just crazy rebound hunger. It is subsiding but my entire mentality was different and I couldn't get control...so now I know some limits and what not to do.

Just a bump and a set back and I am kicking around a modified strategy.

Thinking of making 2 days a week around 600-800 calories, 3 days around 1300 calories, 2 days at 2500 calories. Nothing set in stone. Protein will be about the same on the low calorie days but much higher on the 1300 and 2500 calorie days. This should lead to a weekly intake of around 10,500 calories. My goal is to do enough exercise to average 3000 calories/day burned. That should give me a 10,500 calorie deficit per week. It should also give me some flexibility 2 days a week and keep hormones in check.
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PM coming
 
I got called into EMS and had 3 hours notice. But I said I was lifting today, so I did. Not too bad of a session considering Ive been awake for over 24 hours and the broken finger. Also, another pound down this morning. SAWEEEEET
100 pushups

DB Flat Bench
70x10x2
85x10
100x10

Incline DB flyes
45x10
65x10
75x10

BB flat Bench
185x10
225x10
225x8
225x4

9sets of Cable flyes
3high
3med
3low
 
FireTitan said:
I got called into EMS and had 3 hours notice. But I said I was lifting today, so I did. Not too bad of a session considering Ive been awake for over 24 hours and the broken finger. Also, another pound down this morning. SAWEEEEET
100 pushups

DB Flat Bench
70x10x2
85x10
100x10

Incline DB flyes
45x10
65x10
75x10

BB flat Bench
185x10
225x10
225x8
225x4

9sets of Cable flyes
3high
3med
3low
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Very nice sir! Video, or the 100 pushups never happened.
 
Made it to the gym this morning for back workout. After taking most of a week off while being out of town, I'm amazed at how fast I lose ground. Feels like I was off for a month, not just 5 days. Not only did I gain back weight that I had lost, but I feel like I lost strength as well. Let me tell you, it sucks being old. I don't even want to think about how bad my cardio is gonna be when I get cleared to start running again.
 
SFreed said:
Made it to the gym this morning for back workout. After taking most of a week off while being out of town, I'm amazed at how fast I lose ground. Feels like I was off for a month, not just 5 days. Not only did I gain back weight that I had lost, but I feel like I lost strength as well. Let me tell you, it sucks being old. I don't even want to think about how bad my cardio is gonna be when I get cleared to start running again.
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You will be good bud. You seem like you have a good work ethic. Can't let a week drag you away from the big picture
 
SFreed said:
Made it to the gym this morning for back workout. After taking most of a week off while being out of town, I'm amazed at how fast I lose ground. Feels like I was off for a month, not just 5 days. Not only did I gain back weight that I had lost, but I feel like I lost strength as well. Let me tell you, it sucks being old. I don't even want to think about how bad my cardio is gonna be when I get cleared to start running again.
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You'll be fine, once you get back into the swing of things muscle memory will kick in as well as motivation and drive. You've already taken the first step by getting back in the gymwhether it be a five day or five month break
 
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