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Title says it all. Have you had experience with both and what did you think. FYI, as a kid (15 yrs ago) I began with 5x5.
Just trying to find the best. I am currently working 5x5 into my normal 10rep routine.Are you looking for a new strength program?
Nice! I'll check it out!Check out Jacked Street by Power Athlete. It's goooooooooood stuff.
5/3/1 didn't look that advanced to me. Have you tried it? I'm working in 5x5 for squats and bent over rows.5x5 high volume is better for beginners
Trying to get stronger on my major lifts, while still doing the sexy rep range, haha!I jumped the gun lol what are your goals?
How much do you lift for your big 3? If you lift pretty heavy imo 5/3/1 with some secondary exercises would be good.Trying to get stronger on my major lifts, while still doing the sexy rep range, haha!
Id say stick with 5x5, deadlift is definitely way too weak compared to your squats.honestly, I don't max any more. But if I had to guess I would say bench 250, squat 300, DL 315... But that's just a swag.
It was a guess, I don't DLId say stick with 5x5, deadlift is definitely way too weak compared to your squats.
Ah ok lol well then id say 5/3/1 there are strength calculators online if you want to calculate your what you can hit for 5 3 1 reps and start of a little lighter then the calculations.It was a guess, I don't DL
I don't think there is a so called better one. They each have a place IMO.Have you had experience with both and what did you think. FYI, as a kid (15 yrs ago) I began with 5x5.
Naaa man, I do 5x5 for squats and bent over rows right now, and don't have a training partner.Both programs needs a training partner, so i say **** them both :run:
impossible benching 5x5 or 5 3 1 without partner ... If u do it correctly and using heavy weights.Naaa man, I do 5x5 for squats and bent over rows right now, and don't have a training partner.
PaulBlack I normally do 3 exercises per body part, right now I am doing 4 sets of 10 for two movements, and 5x5 for one. Figured I could get the best of both worlds, strength is being built, and I also get the BB rep range for additional cut/size. For a LONG time I did 10/8/6/4 on almost everything except my arms, I got strong as ****.
Nearly every strength program needs a training partner. What's your point?Both programs needs a training partner, so i say **** them both :run:
Sounds like a plan. I don't think anything is set in stone as too many lifters over the years have used differing protocols et al and made things work. The real bottom line will be progression of some kind, be it strength, mass, shape, fitness...PaulBlack I normally do 3 exercises per body part, right now I am doing 4 sets of 10 for two movements, and 5x5 for one. Figured I could get the best of both worlds, strength is being built, and I also get the BB rep range for additional cut/size.
Oh yes the old pyramid stuff. I got strong doing pyramids as well. I think it is just working down to a low rep number and your body/nervous system adapting to a heavier and heavier push/pull.For a LONG time I did 10/8/6/4 on almost everything except my arms, I got strong as ****.
If I roll with 5x5 on bench I'll ask one of the guys to spot me on my last two sets.impossible benching 5x5 or 5 3 1 without partner ... If u do it correctly and using heavy weights.
I am a chin up guy. Normally begin with 12 straight, then put on 20lbs and do 5x5, and burn out with 2 sets without weight. I have always wanted to try the ladder workout. Maybe I'll give it a shot tomorrow, back and bi day!Sounds like a plan. I don't think anything is set in stone as too many lifters over the years have used differing protocols et al and made things work. The real bottom line will be progression of some kind, be it strength, mass, shape, fitness...
Oh yes the old pyramid stuff. I got strong doing pyramids as well. I think it is just working down to a low rep number and your body/nervous system adapting to a heavier and heavier push/pull.
That said, another way to build mass/ volume/ strength and get the tonnage up is to use "ladders". ie: say chins- 1,2,3,4,1,2,3,2,1,2,1,2,1= 25 total reps. Instead of burning out trying to rep out. I have rested anywhere from 20-30 seconds between rep blocks to as much as 60 secs, if I say have a #50 weight on a belt. As one moves along in W/O's, you can, add reps say 2,3,4,5,4,3,2 or, add weight, or jam the sets closer or all the above. Ladders are fun don't get you bored with certain exercises and work quite well to bump volume and loads on especially tougher exercises.
Tank, just curious...where you do 5x5 for five weeks, then 3x3 for three weeks and 2x2 for two weeks.
Ummmm....ok? Why would a Crossfit or a football program be recommended for increasing a total?Crossfit Football is a strength program (linear progression) with conditioning. And it's free
You know that 5/3/1 has conditioning programmed as well, right?He wants to increase strength. Crossfit football uses a linear progression which is awesome for increasing strength. Plus throws in conditioning which we all need.
Just a recommendation. Nothing else. An alternative.
I have been reading about 5/3/1, but I didn't see the conditioning portion there. Can you share a link?You know that 5/3/1 has conditioning programmed as well, right?
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