4andro as a base

[wfreiling]

6weeks at 550mg or 8wks at 440mg?
Gonna be using alongside either 6wks epistane, dmz or msten. Still need to make up my mind

 

[Smont]

6weeks at 550mg or 8wks at 440mg?
Gonna be using alongside either 6wks epistane, dmz or msten. Still need to make up my mind

Take your pick, if you go 8 weeks then start it 2 weeks before the other stuff. Have you used any of these things before?

 

[wfreiling]

Epistane over a decade ago. I’ve used all the pre ban stuff

 

[Smont]

Epistane over a decade ago. I’ve used all the pre ban stuff

Has it been that long since your last cycle? If so it will be like a first cycle all over again. Make the most out of whatever you liked best in the past

 

[wfreiling]

No I did an hdrol cycle not too long ago. Even still that’s why I wanna really do the compound that’s going to yield the best results. I’m leaning towards dmz because I’m worried about my joints with epistane

 

[blynch1]

I ran 4 Andro along with DMZ and loved the run. 30mg DMZ and 440mg 4 Andro for 5 weeks. Felt like a beast and didn’t have any notable sides. Proper SERM and training allowed me to keep good mass also

 

[Whisky]

440 for 8 weeks, with the conversion your not gonna get any real benefit from that low an increase so better to run longer imo (as @Smont says start it earlier than the others)

 

[Smont]

440 for 8 weeks, with the conversion your not gonna get any real benefit from that low an increase so better to run longer imo (as @Smont says start it earlier than the others)

I think any additional muscle from adding 4 andro to a cycle is more from the estrogen conversion then it is the test conversion, just speculation here.

 

[xR1pp3Rx]

I think any additional muscle from adding 4 andro to a cycle is more from the estrogen conversion then it is the test conversion, just speculation here.

100% agreed. there isn't much getting converted to test to begin with. this is a 2-3 step conversion so.. its very minimal anyhow