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4ad as HRT, could it work?

bigmark1972

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Just curious if you could use trans 4ad or pin an esterfied version long term for a "legal" HRT. Is transdermal any harder on the liver than pinning? How toxic is 4ad in the first place? Just curious since it is such a cheap compound. I have done some snooping but have found little on the toxicity of 4ad.
 
Matthew D said:
HRT is legal.. you just have to have a script from you doctor and he monitors you
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Yeah, if you really do need it, just get a script for the real stuff from your doctor. Besides, 4AD isn't gonna be legal for much longer, So the " long term legal" concept is kinda shot. :rolleyes:
 
Well, I could make a good guess based on the conversion/dose/etc, I would error on the HIGH SIDE, I assure you this would not be an option if I got my Dr involved:rolleyes: I do blood work on my own anyways.


I guess I know it could work was really looking for info on the toxicity.

Eventually I will go that route, I'm in a bit of a legal pinch right now and I don't wanna mess with it right now. (There is a method to my madness)
 
It could be used as HRT I guess but there's no reason that anyone should do it. Why would someone use 4ad which has to convert when you can just get testosterone legally?
 
It could be used as HRT I guess but there's no reason that anyone should do it. Why would someone use 4ad which has to convert when you can just get testosterone legally?
 
for the dosages used for hrt (about 200 mgs of test cyp every week or every other week) you would prolly want to run about 600 mgs of 4ad a week. I truly dont think the toxicity would be that bad on the liver. Especially if you to milk thistle and r ala...It isnt methylated so there wouldnt be a problem with liver toxicity there. It would not be any more toxic than running test cyp. I would however run about 10 mgs of nolva to combat estrogenic sides...If i am incorrect guys feel free to correct me.
Dick
 
there is no toxicity issues, since I assume you would be injecting. we could guess on an amount based off of SS bloodwork results. the reason for wanting to use 4 ad or regular HRT therapy is not everyone has ins. or can afford copays, etc.

also lets say you get blood work done and you are on the high side o fnormal (which isnt high enough if ask me) then you wont be able to get a script fo rit, with 4 ad you dont need a script, as of today.
 
Looking at SS's 4AD injectable results, test levels are approx 25% using 4AD instead of real test. Suppression would also be worse on 4AD then real test I think.
 
also lets say you get blood work done and you are on the high side o fnormal (which isnt high enough if ask me) then you wont be able to get a script fo rit, with 4 ad you dont need a script, as of today.
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Yeah, thats pretty much my reasoning.....
 
I contacted a local clinic on HRT and they compound 4AD in a transdermal, no reason not to do it yourself. I don't think toxicity is an issue but would not want to use DMSO for ever. Why should you have to pay a Dr. for something that should be your decission.
 
azgymrat said:
I contacted a local clinic on HRT and they compound 4AD in a transdermal, no reason not to do it yourself. I don't think toxicity is an issue but would not want to use DMSO for ever. Why should you have to pay a Dr. for something that should be your decission.
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check avant's forum on 4ad and hrt.

someone had posted some nice results with their 4ad/hrt trial run.

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bigmark1972 said:
Thanks for the link, soon to be a moot point I fear.
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If I was you I'd just order a kilo or two before the ban, might be enough for a couple of years at least. Should be able to pick it up for 3-4 hundred each, maybe less.
 
You forgot number 5.

5. Get gyno from unremoved estro
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You forgot number 1.

I'm on probation if I break the law I goto jail.

Yeah I could convert (illegal) synovex with my arms tied behind my back blindfolded, I could do lots of things but the government has me under it's big greasy thumb.

but would not want to use DMSO for ever
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I agree but the recipe I am using has only 10% if it is a prob i'll drop it to 5.
 
It's the HDL/LDL ratio that you would have to be concerned with over a period of time.
 
slewdem said:
1. buy syno
2. remove estro
3. remove ester
4. place resulting powder into t-gel
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1. ok
2 use kit
3 kit
4 place resulting powder into oil
5 follow other steps
6 inject for best results



7 buy fina
8 convert w/kit no heat
9 add to cycle
10 many weeks later do PCT

hehehehe
 
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