400 or 300mg test cyp?

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Second cycle, im 28 400mg test cyp pin tues and fri 10 weeks, 40/40/20/20 nova pct got Arimidex on the way . Also taken omega3’s, qunol, milk thistle, daily multi. im an idiot an thought arimistaine would be a good ai so still waiting for arimidex,my nips have always been a little puffy, atm i have no itch or tenderness, tell me what you think. but looking to add weight. Currently 148.4 wondering if 400 is too much, did first 2 pens, tomorrow is pen 3, would switching to 150mg x2 a week maybe be better? Wanna gain 10-15pounds still stay lean, don’t wanna get too bulked and bloated. I work at ups, burn about 3.2k avg calories a day tossing boxes up to 145 lbs around, 20 miles walked per day in 120 degree weather. Then also do home workouts, but going to get gym membership this week and get back to lifting again, even tho adding a weight vest at work may be enough, few guys up there are massive workin with weighted vests on, i rann a cycle of test e 300 when I was 25. Got testosterone lvls tested and it was med low, but not low enough for trt, I’d like to get it up and gain some weight , need to build pecs up, I’m pigeon chested so that doesn’t help. An I have good insurance so thinking of telling dr and hoping he takes it well and try getting tested maybe bi weekly? Otherwise I’ll order my own. Please be easy on me, would love advice/inputv. Considering dropping to 300mg a week so 150x2, tthoughts? also didnt order any hcg, considering looking into that, or what do you guys think? see if doc will perscribe or order?anyways would appreciate some good feedback, thanks!
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Honestly at your weight I think one CC (250 or 300 depending how your gear is dosed)split 2xs a week in caloric surplus will serve you right only to answer your question.
 

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Honestly at your weight I think one CC (250 or 300 depending how your gear is dosed)split 2xs a week in caloric surplus will serve you right only to answer your question.
Ayeee thanks, I appreciate the input, I’m doing 150x2, so 300. I could drop to 250, I’m eating 3.5k-4.5k calories a day
 

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Yes I'd definitely drop to 250mgs and with your stated cals that's sufficient for growth..
I little goes a long ways..
 

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Yes I'd definitely drop to 250mgs and with your stated cals that's sufficient for growth..
I little goes a long ways..
Damn so think I should drop it more? Started first week 200x2, this week I’ve done 150x1 gonna do 150 tomorrow. Or you think I do 100? Then stick to 125x2 the rest the way?
 

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Damn so think I should drop it more? Started first week 200x2, this week I’ve done 150x1 gonna do 150 tomorrow. Or you think I do 100? Then stick to 125x2 the rest the way?
If it were me at your body weight I'd go 125mgs 2xs a week,mybe later on in the cycle MYBE 300mgs .If I've already up the food intake and gains were stalling
 

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If it were me at your body weight I'd go 125mgs 2xs a week,mybe later on in the cycle MYBE 300mgs .If I've already up the food intake and gains were stalling
Ok, an my ai ended up being bunk, have another one on the way but no way to track when it’s going to get here, is there any alternative you’d suggest? I have arimistaine, I got some **** called novedex xt aswell but pretty sure that’s crap. Any suggestion? Fee like my estrogen may be a bit high atm, an ok I’ll crop to 250
 

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If it were me at your body weight I'd go 125mgs 2xs a week,mybe later on in the cycle MYBE 300mgs .If I've already up the food intake and gains were stalling
Since I already did 150 this week once tomorrow just do 100mg then go to 125x2? Or pin another 150 tomorrow then start 125x2?
 

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Whoa,ok since you don't have an ai I'd definitely drop to mybe 100mgs weekly and 100mgs arimistane daily and try and get blood work (if possible) to see where your estrogen sits. But with an ai on board I'd definitely stick with 250mgs me I don't need an ai at 250mgs.
^^^All this is just what I'd do in your situation
 

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Whoa,ok since you don't have an ai I'd definitely drop to mybe 100mgs weekly and 100mgs arimistane daily and try and get blood work (if possible) to see where your estrogen sits. But with an ai on board I'd definitely stick with 250mgs me I don't need an ai at 250mgs.
^^^All this is just what I'd do in your situation
Right, an yeah it helps appreciate all the info. An yeah I don’t have one on hand atm. When I ran first cycle years ago did test e 300 for 8 weeks with no ai an was fine, but yeah I know it’s not smart to do. An I’m going to get blood work done Monday. If I were to drop to 100mg, wouldn’t I just be shitting down my natural test an not really see much benefit? From what I’ve read people say it’s a waste, but I’m not too sure.
 

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I meant dropping to 100mgs vs stopping your cycle until your ai arrives..
You could try some board sponsors and have what you need in a timely manner..
 

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I meant dropping to 100mgs vs stopping your cycle until your ai arrives..
You could try some board sponsors and have what you need in a timely manner..
Yeah itd be wonderful if I could get contact info for someone who could make that happen, I have the money. My ai shopped the 4th with no tracking number, so could be here today, tomorrow, or be weeks. Where I got it said due to COVID may take up to 30 days for outside us, but I’m inside us, said usually 3-7 business days. So I’m not sure, may not ever arrive, but how do I contact board sponser? I’d rather have double the amount than non at all
 

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I meant dropping to 100mgs vs stopping your cycle until your ai arrives..
You could try some board sponsors and have what you need in a timely manner..
I have been using arimistaine about once every 2-3 days 25-50mg, I mean it’s day 10 today, feelin good, think have a bit of pseudo gyno, but am really hoping ai will be in asap
 

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Started Tuesday 9/1/20
Pin 200mg
10-12 weeks
Thursday 9/4/2020 2nd pin- 200mg nothing as of yet working hard, working out hard.

Tuesday 9/8/2020 3rd pin considering dropping t150x2 a week, feel my estrogen is high, a bit irritable, swollen nips, swollen wrist. Still working hard and working out hard

Friday 9/10/20 4th pin-150mg
Estrogen feels high, awful sleep, really hot, moody, swollen wrist, extreme anxiety at night, luckily this board has some great people, put me at ease a bit, can’t wait for ai to come tomorrow.

Sat 9/11/20 armidex came in, took .5 immediately, hoping to feel better soon. Gonna wait to take next .5 dose on Tuesday pin day, then will take it every pin day I’m thinking.
May consider dropping to .25x2 a week, see how I feel

9/14/20 9pm started feeling tingly nips and booted wrist

9/15 5th pin - 150mg woke up itchy scalp, best I’ve felt ina week though, pinned 150mg, have .25 arm on hand. Feel like I’m recovering a bit faster, excited for work an gym.
 

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Started Tuesday 9/1/20
Pin 200mg
10-12 weeks
Thursday 9/4/2020 2nd pin- 200mg nothing as of yet working hard, working out hard.

Tuesday 9/8/2020 3rd pin considering dropping t150x2 a week, feel my estrogen is high, a bit irritable, swollen nips, swollen wrist,libido low. Still working hard and working out hard

Friday 9/10/20 4th pin-150mg
Estrogen feels high, awful sleep, really hot, moody, swollen wrist, libido low,extreme anxiety at night, luckily this board has some great people, put me at ease a bit, can’t wait for ai to come tomorrow.

Sat 9/11/20 armidex came in, took .5 immediately, hoping to feel better soon. Gonna wait to take next .5 dose on Tuesday pin day, then will take it every pin day I’m thinking.
May consider dropping to .25x2 a week, see how I feel. Within 8 hours noticed my Fitbit was falling of my wrist and nipples went back to normal, and I felt normal. Sleep still a bit sketchy

9/14/20 9pm started feeling tingly nips and bloated wrist, took .25mg armidex, maybe e2d is the play.

9/15 5th pin - 150mg woke up itchy scalp could be due to lower estrogen, but I’ve kinda always had bad scalp,but best I’ve felt ina week though, libido great, starting to feel a bit stronger, Feel like I’m recovering a bit faster, excited for work an workout have .25mg armidex on hand.
Forgot to log, was ina bit of an high estrogen “depression” past week or so, feeling great now!
 
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Forgot to log, was ina bit of an high estrogen “depression” past week or so, feeling great now!
Ha! I know that feel and understand completely.

You do start to feel unworthy, questioning whether you are good for anything at all, dont you? 😁

Other people who never used aas have this image that if you take test you turn into this alpha super male with insane libido but often times its not the case at all. Happens to me, 200mg test, 500mg test... estrogen shoots up and i get depressed. Weird, eh?

Hence i keep test dose low and add other androgens.



As far as itchy scalp goes, here is my view. Ising ai results in less esteogen but also more dht, and more androgen dominant environment.

Ketoconazole shampoo is your friend.
 
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Ha! I know that feel and understand completely.

You do start to feel unworthy, questioning whether you are good for anything at all, dont you?

Other people who never used aas have this image that if you take test you turn into this alpha super male with insane libido but often times its not the case at all. Happens to me, 200mg test, 500mg test... estrogen shoots up and i get depressed. Weird, eh?

Hence i keep test dose low and add other androgens.



As far as itchy scalp goes, here is my view. Ising ai results in less esteogen but also more dht, and more androgen dominant environment.

Ketoconazole shampoo is your friend.
Yup and brain was just foggy, just wasn’t myself, now back to myself, mayb bit more confident. An I was just lookin for shampoos!
 

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Ha! I know that feel and understand completely.

You do start to feel unworthy, questioning whether you are good for anything at all, dont you?

Other people who never used aas have this image that if you take test you turn into this alpha super male with insane libido but often times its not the case at all. Happens to me, 200mg test, 500mg test... estrogen shoots up and i get depressed. Weird, eh?

Hence i keep test dose low and add other androgens.



As far as itchy scalp goes, here is my view. Ising ai results in less esteogen but also more dht, and more androgen dominant environment.

Ketoconazole shampoo is your friend.
Yup and brain was just foggy, just wasn’t myself, now back to myself, mayb bit more confident. An I was just lookin for shampoos!
 

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9/16 - woke up feeling really tired felt sluggish, took .25 armidex around noon e2d seems to be the play.

9/18 fri 6th pin with.12 armidex can’t tel if estrogen is high or really low, woke up extremely sore even tho didn’t workout Thursday, not sure what’s ip

9/19 sat moody, tingly nips took another .12 armidex, probably going to switch over to aromasin soon

9/19 sat- took 250mg hcg, going to do 2 times a week probably wait till Thursfsy for next injection 1 day before test or an stick to Monday and Thursday

9/22 tues- 150mg test, woke up feeling great, good sleep, confident, have ups driving test in 3 hours. Gonna crush it, may take 250mg hcg after haven’t decided. Actually decided to do it before I left, ez pz, ready to for this driving test then workout when I get home. Not taking AI till I have sides, I’m up 10 pounds an look better than I ever have by far
 

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