pantera101
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From those who have done 6 weekers,was it woth it?Or should you have stopped at 4?
4 or 6 weeks with eptihios?
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pantera101
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pantera101
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Allright then!Any one who's ran a 4 week cycle,do you feel you could of continued it with success?Theirs a new havoc log posted every 5 minutes here!C'MON FVCKERS!!!!
tnick7
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I used it for 4 weeks. The only side I got was acne which came during end of Week 4 and throughout PCT. As far as feeling shutdown I definitely FELT I could have gone for 6 weeks. I didnt feel at all lethargic, no noticeable testi atrophy etc
It really kicked in for me when I knocked it to 40mg, which was Week 4. However as from week 3 I was gaining mass and strength (just a lot slower than @ 40mg). I think 5-6 weeks is definitely plausible. My best advise is to run it 4 weeks then elaborate from there. Anything over 4 weeks, and anything over 30mg I would say SERM for PCT. Hope this helps
Royd The Noyd
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I've ran havoc something like 7-8 weeks. I thought the extra weeks were worth it. My body seemed to retain the gains and pct was just as easy as a 4 weeker. These compounds are so mild, but I still like them a lot.
pantera101
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I used it for 4 weeks. The only side I got was acne which came during end of Week 4 and throughout PCT. As far as feeling shutdown I definitely FELT I could have gone for 6 weeks. I didnt feel at all lethargic, no noticeable testi atrophy etc
It really kicked in for me when I knocked it to 40mg, which was Week 4. However as from week 3 I was gaining mass and strength (just a lot slower than @ 40mg). I think 5-6 weeks is definitely plausible. My best advise is to run it 4 weeks then elaborate from there. Anything over 4 weeks, and anything over 30mg I would say SERM for PCT. Hope this helps
It does help man.I'm already at 40 on day 15.It's mild and all so I hit it hard.If I go 6 weeks I will go to 50 for weeks 5 and 6.Most everyone says to not run SD more than 3 weeks,and 2 weekers are very popular now which is what I'll do next with SD.The third week was next to useless for me.So I'm just wanting to see if theirs a consensus like this for epithios.
pantera101
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Thanks man!Now we're getting somewhere and I'm hearing what I want to hear!!!!
tnick7
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If I run it again I will run it 40mg for 6 weeks. As said its pretty mild so I say go for it but take it as it comes. If you start to get sides or things start to slow down in the fifth week say then end it there.
Im gonna try out 2 week (or maybe 2 week and 5 day) SD session in a couple of months, and Im gonna front load the SD, pretty excited
Royd The Noyd
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Btw I got bloodwork sometime in PCT for that cycle (Lipids, liver, kidney, thyroid) and all was good. 
pantera101
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If I run it again I will run it 40mg for 6 weeks. As said its pretty mild so I say go for it but take it as it comes. If you start to get sides or things start to slow down in the fifth week say then end it there.
Im gonna try out 2 week (or maybe 2 week and 5 day) SD session in a couple of months, and Im gonna front load the SD, pretty excited
Yeah I could sence that my m drol was done,but I stayed with it anyways.Then I thought afterwards I should of ended it when I first thought maybe I should end it...So I def learned from that one.
pantera101
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Btw I got bloodwork sometime in PCT for that cycle (Lipids, liver, kidney, thyroid) and all was good.
What dosage did you go to?
Royd The Noyd
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I had to go back and look at the log. Looks like I actually only went 6 weeks, but ran it up to 70mg's/day. I also used a bottle of Dermacrine during that cycle.
ozarkaBRAND
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i've done a 6, and a 7 weeker.
honestly, the gains aren't that impressive after the 4th week. I'd just stop there.
honestly, the gains aren't that impressive after the 4th week. I'd just stop there.
pantera101
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What was your log called?
pantera101
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Did you continue to up the dose after the fourth week?
ozarkaBRAND
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I maxed out at about 50 or 60mg. Kept it pretty high the whole time.
pantera101
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I upped mine to 40 pretty quickly.I think the key is to keep increasing the dose with time.I may even go to 60 gradually to hit 6 weeks.We'ra all different so I'll see how things go.I hear some complain about insomnia and I take a pill before I go to bed and sleep just fine....
pistonpump
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ive done an 8 weeker at high doses, i thought the extra weeks i still gained slightly but it helped me keep the gains from the begininning of the cycle better imo.
pantera101
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Do you remember the doses?
Thats an interesting twist.Most say shorter cycles are easier to maintain gains due to not being supressed as much.Now that you say it,I can see that......
pistonpump
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well its compound dependant too, for me the meat of it was probably once i lost the insane libido boost, weeks 4-6 probably made the most gains. dosing was not weekly it was more when i felt like it, if i had to try and break it down in weeks id say.... 30/40/40/50/50/60/60-70/60 something like that. 50 is probably the best dose for a 200+lb male imo.
ralph4u2c
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ran up to 6 weeks @ 40-50mg range and gains werent any better than 30mg (for me at least) @ 4 weeks. you should make most of your gains in 4 weeks, not worth taking much longer than that IMO.....same goes for most methylated orals.
Royd The Noyd
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After using Havoc or epidrol in 3 cycles (once solo the other two stacked with various items) I felt as though the money spot for me was right around 50mg/day. On average I was anywhere from 200-235lbs to give you an idea of body size. As I truly believe that is one factor in properly dosing these supplements/roidz.
pantera101
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I'm at 40mgs on day 16 and had great results today!!!I mean fan fvcking tastic results!!!!!If I go 6 weeks I'm going to gradually increase to 60.Unless 40 just keeps working well,then I'll up it to 50 cause I imagine I'll have to bump it sooner or later.......
pistonpump
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pantera what epi product are you using?
pantera101
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The only one I'll ever use untill it is no longer made and sold out,the original,the best,HAVOC!!!!!!!I have never used others,but crader and dsade(owners)are the sh!t.It did come out first,and I have had great gains with it so far.Check my log if you haven't,it's almost unbelievable.Just remember I'm doing DC,it's not your usual training program.I said this in another thread,but I find it funny when guys today will pay high dollar for an expired AX designer,say SD,when m drol is tried and true and way cheaper.Then these same guys will use another besides havoc.....:think: