Unanswered 4-DHEA/m-sten/dienolone cycle

UNX

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I'm gonna run a 40 days cycle in 3 weeks, for bulking:

4-DHEA (oral) 345 mg/day
M-sten (oral) 15 mg/day
Dienolone (transdermal) 75 mg/days for 30 days

What it's wiser, starting dienolone at the beggining or wait to the last 30 days? I've run m-sten before but just 30 days, 40 days @ 15 mg/day is fine? I'll take TUDCA during all the cycle.
 
I did damn near same cycle before. Did dienolone whole time though. I think 8 weeks. Dimethandrostenol was first 6 weeks not msten. Lost fat gain little muscle. Got big strength increase
 
dvw said:
I did damn near same cycle before. Did dienolone whole time though. I think 8 weeks. Dimethandrostenol was first 6 weeks not msten. Lost fat gain little muscle. Got big strength increase
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I assume it was a cutting cycle, right? Maybe 4-DHEA for a cutting cycle is not the best choice, did you need any AI?
 
dvw said:
Not a cutting cycle. Cutting is 90% diet
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I know, but I was surprised about your results. I hope to gain a good amount of mass (with the right diet, of course), taking in mind that m-sten alone is quite potent.
 
UNX said:
I know, but I was surprised about your results. I hope to gain a good amount of mass (with the right diet, of course), taking in mind that m-sten alone is quite potent.
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If you eat a calorie surplus and train hard you could gain 12 lbs in 42 days on that cycle. Now after PCT, will you keep all 12 lbs of gainz? Probably not. But 6 or 8 lbs is possible. Imagine 6 lbs of ground sirloin. That's alot.
 
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