4 Andro or Trest 8 Week Base ~~ Alpha 1 +Msten

whatsnatty

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For my next cycle I'm looking at running an 8 week base of either 4 andro or trest. Im going to run alpha 1 and msten with it looking for a strong wet bulk.
Week 1-8: 4 andro or Trest (8 weeks)
Week 2-8: Msten ( 6 weeks)
Week 4-8: Alpha 1 (4 weeks)

What do you guys think? Any suggestions on whether to run 4 andro as a base or trest? What's the difference between the two that makes one better than another in terms of a base for this cycle? Of course, I have my PCT and support agents as well. Let me know guys !!

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Jerrad

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I would go with the 4 andro since it's non methylated.
 

Ianiowa8411

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Bump. I'd also like to know if more people go for 4 Andro or Trest / Ment
 

YoungBodyBuil

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I would never touch 4-andro it's mainly converted to forms of estrogen some of our forums smartest people dont even know. I'd go with Trest, better for gains too, and it'll be a stronger base which youll need for msten.
 
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If you've done heavy cycles you'll know that using 4dhea aka the new 4andro will not suffice. Better off using dermacrine and of course trest
 

Ianiowa8411

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Not arguing the estro conversion, but I ran 4 Andro/Msten and at 300mg (6 caps) a day of 4 Andro I felt pretty good in the libido, mood, and joints area. Haven't ever tried trest but I'm definitely thinking of giving it a shot next go around
 

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