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4 andro & epistane pct

Hans_adri

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Cycle:

4-andro: 375/375/375/375/375/375
Epistane: 0/0/30/30/30/30

Pct:

Clomid: 50/50/25/25
Gw501615: 20/20/20/20

Is this enough for pct or should i add something else?
 
As long as you have a serm in pct that is the main thing. You have your clomid at a good dosage so I think you're good to go. You could through in an otc pct product if you really wanted to, and a natty test booster.
 
I might suggest then.

Viron (Test Boost)
and Rebirth (OTC SERM) by BLR in your PCT as well.

If you want to invest in VECTOR for post PCT that would be perfect.





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How much lean muscle mass would one expect to gain from this cycle? If coming off and staying "natural" as before - that being said, a natural guy doing this for his first and let's say ONLY cycle, would this be a good move if he wanted a couple extra pounds to his physique, or will you eventually lose what you gained?

Hope I made myself clear, question wise.
 
Thanks everyone�� and for me its more about looking dryer, harder and cutting off some fat... If i gain a lilte bit of extra muscle mass it would be a nice extra ��
 
You might want to have an ai on hand just in case bro, rebound Gyno from epi, might not happen but if it does and you don’t have one your up sh1t creek without a paddle. If you don’t need it, happy days and it’s there for another cycle
 
Hans_adri said:
Thanks everyone�� and for me its more about looking dryer, harder and cutting off some fat... If i gain a lilte bit of extra muscle mass it would be a nice extra ��
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Just out of interest why are you only running the epi at 30 for 4 weeks. Your dosing, on cycle supports, pct and fact you have an ai shows you know what you are doing (if you haven’t run a cycle before you’ve obviously done your homework) but the cycle doesn’t really match the goals in some ways?

Epistane is the one that’ll dry you out, provide hardness and lean gains. 4-andro is really just a test base, not especially wet but doesn’t really play to your goals so much.

Both for 6 weeks at those doses (people do run epi higher but 4-andro might not be enough to offset the lethargy so I get it if that’s the logic behind 30) would probably give you a better outcome aligned to your goals bro, but like I say I’m thinking you may have good reason?
 
This is my first cycle so i want to see how my body reacts to a lower dosage... Its still a bit scary for me. If my body responds good ill probably do another cycle after some time off with higher dosages and longer. (Sorry for my english , i'm dutch)
 
I did get my hands on some nolva... The clomid i have i'm not 100% sure if its legit but the nolva i do... How should i dose nolva? 20/20/10/10?

As an ai i got aromasin... What dosages should i take if it is needed?

I started my cycle yesterday btw.
 
Hans_adri said:
I did get my hands on some nolva... The clomid i have i'm not 100% sure if its legit but the nolva i do... How should i dose nolva? 20/20/10/10?

As an ai i got aromasin... What dosages should i take if it is needed?

I started my cycle yesterday btw.
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How is it going
 
Everthing is going fine... My niples felt a litle bit sore a few days but that did go away on its own. Not feeling anything special yet im 2 weeks in now tomorrow im adding the epistane.
 
Whats the main reason to run Gw501615 during PCT?
Its aimed for fat loss, correct? Sorry, this ones new to me.
 
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