4-ad off test cyp on

Jimmyv

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Hey guys, I am currently in the midst of a super mandro/ andro the giant cycle. I am 4 weeks in and have put on a solid 15 pounds. I have enough supps for an 8 week run. However, I'm considering scrapping andro the giant and running a real test base like cyp for another 10 weeks while finishing the 8 weeks of Mandro. What are your thoughts? Should I stay on andro the giant for a few more weeks until the cyp kicks in or scrap the idea and stick with what I got?

Thanks in advance,
 
Jimmyv said:
Should I stay on the 4-ad for the first few weeks while on cyp?
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No. 4-andro reduces to testosterone in the body via a 2-step conversion process. You'll be injecting the real thing, so it wouldn't make sense to also take 4-andro. You have a pharma AI?
 
I am take iron legions virtus right now for ai with no sides as of yet other then a little pain urinating. After upping water intake that went away. If I go test cyp I'll have real deal pharm ai on hand.
 
Jimmyv said:
Gotcha. I thought with the long ester of cyp it would take some time before it would kick in.
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I could be wrong, but since you've already been using a prohormone to testosterone, it has already "kicked in." Waiting for something to kick in just means you're waiting for enough of it to have built up in your bloodstream. It has already done that, so any test you inject now would be adding to the levels you've already built up.

This isn't a normal situation, so I'm not 100% on that, but I think it makes sense.
 
It's not testosterone that he's waiting to build up it's the test cyp he's waiting to build up in his body. You could continue the 4-andro for another two weeks and let the test cyp build up if you're that worried about it, but definitely wouldn't say it's a must.
 
Randallk21 said:
It's not testosterone that he's waiting to build up it's the test cyp he's waiting to build up in his body. You could continue the 4-andro for another two weeks and let the test cyp build up if you're that worried about it, but definitely wouldn't say it's a must.
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I disagree. Test cyp is not what builds up in your body. When you start a cycle, testosterone levels slowly accumulate in the blood. All an ester does is control how quickly a dose peaks in the blood and how long it takes to metabolize. The reason everyone says test takes 3-4 weeks to kick in is because it takes this long to go from normal levels to the kind of supraphysiological levels you want on cycle. It doesn't mean a specific dose isn't having an effect the next day after you inject; it absolutely is.

If he stopped taking the 4-andro without the test, then yes, the levels he has built up would start to fall. But once he injects actual testosterone, there will be no further need for 4-andro. He will have something more effective at maintaining and increasing his testosterone levels.
 
Look into "pre loading" your test cyp. too and you will get your levels up quicker and they will stabilize faster. You basically just double your normal weekly dose on the first week.
 
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