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4-ad cypionate and 19-nor cypionate

Not that I advocate using esterfied PH's for injectable preparations.

Originally posted by Chemo
SSX,

Basic steps:
  • Prep site and pin
  • Enter at 90 degree angle in ONE STEADY MOTION. Stop and starts make for slight cramps later.
  • ASPIRATE by applying slight back pressure on the plunger. If you are doing this you have clearly not hit a nerve. As was said above, you'll know well before you come within an inch of the nerve. If you do not draw blood into the syringe barrel you are not in a vein or artery.
  • Inject SLOWLY and EVENLY. This is the key to soreness...after a while you'll get into a rythm of your own but very important at the beginning.
  • Don't lax on the hygience...apply pressure until the spot of blood does not appear on the boo-boo ;) If you use a 28 or 25 to pin you probably don't have to worry about this so much.
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elijah_123 said:
Hey tom how is the 25g needle working out for you?
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no problems at all really.. goes in real smooth.. and now that im heating the syringe under water for about a min the injections goes much easier and i can go as slow/fast as i want..
 
Has anybody given any thought to using the BDC 'lymphatic delivery' nor or 4-AD since this solution is already mixed?
 
Whatever happened to those i was gonna order one day and the next they are gone?
thanks

peace
 
????

I used the chat link on the site and the person on the other end said you could still get them from the maker which is meso labs. But I have been having trouble finding the meso labs site.

I would like to give the nor a go
 
Anyone hear anything about the VPX cypionates?

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I also have it on good autority that Kilosports will have 19nor, 4-AD and 1-Test liquid preps within a month. Any updates from any home brewers?


HUGE
 
We've been discussing the VPX stuff over at BB.com. Essentially, they said that there is no reason for one to think that the Cyp products are injectable. We all came to the conclusion that they are full of ****.

That being said, they are pretty expensive especially the 1-Test-Cyp version. I wouldn't inject any 1-Test product. At 50/mg/ml you would need large volumes to have any effect anyway.

EDog
 
I did about 800 mg a week of the 4-AD-Cyp and did ok for the first few weeks and then after 2 more weeks the gains petered out. I hear now that you have to frontload with 2500mg for the first few weeks. I plan on trying again in July and will let you know. Patrick Arnold said the Nor-Diol only assayed at 50% of Deca in rats and 4-AD assayed at 95% of Test in rats. Seems we can't really judge much from the rat assays though. I can't wait until I get the 1,4 diol Cypionate.

EDog
 
I just finished a topical 1-Test / 3-Alpha cylce , so I need to take a 6-oxo break (4-6 weeks, see how it goes) then I think I will give these liquid preps a shot ( is that a pun? hmmmm....) What is the deal with the 1,4 andro cyp?

 

 

HUGE
 
I am woriking on getting it for the site. I am really excited about it. I think it should be the best cyp-prohormone out there. There is one more PH that is even more interesting, but it is a way off before we'll see a Cyp version of that one and that is the new Tren precursor that is supposed to be coming out. We'll have to see if it is a reality though because VPX promised it a log time ago and they couldn't make it stable. Remember Paradrol???

EDog
 
Powder for sure. You can homebrew it yourself with either a kit which I will hopefully have or just get the stuff from any source. I'll let you guys know when we get it. I hope it is soon just for my own benefit. What is good about it is that typically you keep the gains you get from EQ and I hope the same will be with 1,4 Cypionate.


EDog
 
The 1,4-cyp will be a thick oil and not a powder...hard to make though regardless of viscosity or consistency.

Chemo
 
just started a Nordiol Cycle last week. I'll let you know. I am also going to start the anarchy stack next week along with it. Front loaded 2500 mg to start and am at 1250 maintenance for the rest of the 8 weeks. If after 4 weeks, I get nothing I may abort, but I feel pretty fucking good on it. I choose Nordiol because I believe that it is easier on the body (deca) than Test. Nandrolone has been shown to improve lifespan where Test has reduced it.

EDog
 
Retired*now legalgear.com* said:
just started a Nordiol Cycle last week. I'll let you know. I am also going to start the anarchy stack next week along with it. Front loaded 2500 mg to start and am at 1250 maintenance for the rest of the 8 weeks. If after 4 weeks, I get nothing I may abort, but I feel pretty fucking good on it. I choose Nordiol because I believe that it is easier on the body (deca) than Test. Nandrolone has been shown to improve lifespan where Test has reduced it.

EDog
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Hey man, any update yet? How did it go?

I'm looking into buying some from you guys, but if I frontloaded w/ 2500 and then maintenance at 1250, I'd have to buy 3 vials off you guys. Which would be $225--ouch........unless its worth it.
 
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