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4-6 wk M-sten Cycle

blackhole1

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I am 15 days into a 30 cycle of IML M-Sten. So far the product is working pretty well. I've gains approx. 5lbs, while trimming down in the midsection. Arm size has also increased 1/4 in, back about 1/2 in, and chest about 1/4 in. Muscle is much more hard looking. I have read reviews stating amazing gains off of this, and some saying that it is not a good solo bulking agent, so we will see. What I have read in most every post though is week 3 is were the gains are really noticed, so im hoping this is a good week. As far as diet goes, originally I planned on 3500+ cals/day. Ive prob been hitting around 2700 most days. And that is mixed between Pro Complex Gainer, and whole foods. Im running 20/20/20/20 and taking multi, On cycle support, fish oil, joint support, and more milk thistle. So far the only 2 sides ive had are lethargy and itching. I've heard of others having this itching problem. Its pretty bad, especially once body heat rises, but there is no rash. It will last for about 15 minutes and then it is gone. This product has given me awesome focus and a total alpha feeling, both in and out of the gym. I wouldn't say I've had mood swings, but Ive been a little "no nonsense" kind of guy I guess. If by the end of this week I have no sides, im thinking about running this for 5-6 weeks, and attempting to bump it up to 30. Any opinions on this would be appreciated. My previous cycles were CEL D-Zine in 2009, and D-Plex in 2012. I've really tried to plan this one out and have Tomax and DAA on hand for my PCT, along with a PCT Assist and the same support supps I am taking now. I did take a pre workout one day when lethargy was pretty bad, im not sure I will do that again. Got a dull headache, almost like a migraine, guess BP was too high. Any advice or comments are greatly appreciated
 
I ran 20mg first week then ran the next 25 days at 34.4mg (that's the way the math works anyway). For me the sides were not terrible but I was very glad to be done with it. Lethargy was something fierce. How ever you run it I would not go over 1000 mg in a cycle.
 
thehogsters said:
I would not go over 1000 mg in a cycle.
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Only thing i would run 1g of is stano. How ever mentioned running 1g?

OP im on my fourth week of stenzine by ironflex supplements (10mg msten and 10mg dmz) and have gained 12-14lbs. Pushing my dose to 30mg msten and 30mg dmz for the next 21 days.. dont be afraid to up your dose as long as you havent had any "sides" thus far.
 
tyga tyga said:
Only thing i would run 1g of is stano. How ever mentioned running 1g?OP im on my fourth week of stenzine by ironflex supplements (10mg msten and 10mg dmz) and have gained 12-14lbs. Pushing my dose to 30mg msten and 30mg dmz for the next 21 days.. dont be afraid to up your dose as long as you havent had any "sides" thus far.
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Lets see here, you have done 10 mg of msten in 30 day = 300mg. You say you are going to do 21 days at 30mg = 630mg . 300 + 630 = 930mg, pretty darn close to 1000mg if you ask me. Of course you have spread it out more. This may make the sides more manageable ?
 
thehogsters said:
Lets see here, you have done 10 mg of msten in 30 day = 300mg. You say you are going to do 21 days at 30mg = 630mg . 300 + 630 = 930mg, pretty darn close to 1000mg if you ask me. Of course you have spread it out more. This may make the sides more manageable ?
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Something tells me that he was thinking you meant 1g ED not the whole length of the cycle lol
 
Its been about 3 days since I last posted, the only workout I have done since was an endurance leg workout. I'll tell it was really hard to get going that day, lethargy was something fierce. But once I got into it, it was game time. That and the itching are about the only sides that im having from this. Its just hard to get up and going. The back bumps haven't been too bad, but I try and take 2-3g of Taurine before workouts. I really feel them during abs, not so much on squats or deads. I don't know if this is a side or not, but a few nights I've had some weird and horrible dreams, has anyone else had this. Im not blaming it on the Msten, but its really the only thing I can contribute it to. I haven't had a chance to check my weight, but I can say that clothes are fitting a little more tight, while my midsection is slimming down a bit. Abs are becoming more defined. I started the cycle at 162.5lbs, so im obviously not a huge guy. I was going into this thinking of bulking and trying to hit about 15-20lbs in gains, but I think i'll save a cycle like that for the winter when its not hot and humid as f*ck out.
 
tyga tyga said:
Only thing i would run 1g of is stano. How ever mentioned running 1g?

OP im on my fourth week of stenzine by ironflex supplements (10mg msten and 10mg dmz) and have gained 12-14lbs. Pushing my dose to 30mg msten and 30mg dmz for the next 21 days.. dont be afraid to up your dose as long as you havent had any "sides" thus far.
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I'm liking this!
 
Ok I haven't posted on here in a while. But I am 1 week into PCT right now. I'm running all the support supps from on-cycle still as well as 20ml's of Tamox, and I'm taking Intimidate. During cycle I dosed 20/day, but the last 4 days I was able to up the dose to 30/day. I don't know if it was because I knew that I had added extra or what, but holy hell. The pumps, the aggression, and the strength on those days dosed at 30 was unreal. All in all I would say this cycle was a success. I gained a total of 13 pounds while on cycle, and my strength went through the roof. A week into PCT the strength is still there and going up, size is still there, but of course I don't feel it as much as when I was on the MSTEN. People were commenting towards the end that I need to start buying bigger shirts, and different things like that. It was a good feeling. When I said strength gains were amazing, my incline bench I was maxing out around 185 for 5. By the end of cycle I was setting 245 for 5, and starting off with 205 for first working set. A week into PCT I've upped the rep range a bit, but am still hitting 225 for around 8-10, So I'm still very happy. I ran into some libido issues the end of week 3, beginning of week 4 but only lasted a few days. Lethargy was prob. the biggest issue. There was times I felt I could sleep for a whole day and still not feel rested. I think I'm going to take about 12-16 weeks off and run this again. I am wanting to stack it though. I want to do a really BULK Cycle. At 5'6'' I think if I can break into the 190 range, it'll look pretty decent. The heaviest I ever was, was 185. Any recommendations on something to stack this with, please let me know. I've been thinking about getting some Mdrol or IML's Metha Drol Extreme.
 
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