300 or 400 Mg of test?

[Codybenz]

Starting a cut/weight loss cycle in April. Going to diet for 12 weeks. Will run test all 12 weeks. Tbol for the first 6 or 7 and I'm going to attempt to go to the dark side with 50mg of tren ace EOD for last 6 weeks. May throw some t3 in if my fat loss stalls.

My question is should I run 300mg or 400 mg of test total. I love the feeling of high test, but on a cut I know a lot is not necessary and want to not worry about water weight.

Opinions on dose?

 

[mixedup]

You'll be fine at 300mg

 

[suavmcgauv]

I'd start low and go up as experience and goals dictate

 

[Codybenz]

I'd start low and go up as experience and goals dictate

I've ran test as high as 700mg a week. But I've only used gear on bulks. This will be first hard diet with gear. I'm looking for real world experience with a good test dosage for dieting from some experienced members. Shouldn't need to increase dose as I go

No offense but that was a generic noob answer, lol.

 

[Old Witch]

With tren, 300 will be fine. If you were trying to cut with test only I’d say you need a hell of a lot more.

 

[suavmcgauv]

It may not be what you ant to hear, but you dot have to decide for yourself, because we are all is so different that there is no straight number to throw you, just the best guess for you based on what you are experiencing, and the direction you are moving in relation to your goals. That is all I am saying
Not speaking to your your level of experience, rather the quality of your experience while on, and to shift and tweak to find what feels best.

 

[Chados]

It's quite hard to add much muscle even with steroids during a cut but to preserve you'll be fine with that. I think you could eat at maintenance and still drop weight

 

[Codybenz]

It's quite hard to add much muscle even with steroids during a cut but to preserve you'll be fine with that. I think you could eat at maintenance and still drop weight

Thanks that's what I was looking for. This is strictly a fat loss cycle, I want to keep as much muscle as possible during the 12 weeks. Tbol and tren will doing most of the work, just wanted opinions on the test dosage thats just high enough to to help with catabolism

 

[Old Witch]

Thanks that's what I was looking for. This is strictly a fat loss cycle, I want to keep as much muscle as possible during the 12 weeks. Tbol and tren will doing most of the work, just wanted opinions on the test dosage thats just high enough to to help with catabolism

Tren might actually increase catabolism in a deficit in a roundabout, reach-around-your-back-to-touch-your-nose kind of way. So watch for that.

How does that work? What does it all even mean? Well, tren is so highly anabolic that it can make your body burn huge amounts of energy trying to build new tissue and store glycogen. Which then if calories are inadequate, results in a much much deeper caloric deficit overall, which is unaccountable by normal means.

 

[Abe Lincoln]

Why not start earlier and recomp.. Have calories lower for 3-6 days out of the week, depending on your metabolism is ****, and bulk for the remaining days.

How much do you weigh? Do you even have any muscle to show off while cut? If you under 170 already dont cut.. if you are 5'10 you will look like a girl if you got smaller.

 

[Codybenz]

Why not start earlier and recomp.. Have calories lower for 3-6 days out of the week, depending on your metabolism is ****, and bulk for the remaining days.

How much do you weigh? Do you even have any muscle to show off while cut? If you under 170 already dont cut.. if you are 5'10 you will look like a girl if you got smaller.

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5'10 205 at the moment. I have a little muscle mass.

 

[Codybenz]

Tren might actually increase catabolism in a deficit in a roundabout, reach-around-your-back-to-touch-your-nose kind of way. So watch for that.

How does that work? What does it all even mean? Well, tren is so highly anabolic that it can make your body burn huge amounts of energy trying to build new tissue and store glycogen. Which then if calories are inadequate, results in a much much deeper caloric deficit overall, which is unaccountable by normal means.

That may work even better for me.
I honestly don't plan on being ina huge calorie deficit. Why? Wel because I really like to eat. In fact I won't lower total calories by all that much, just gonna up protein and cut some carbs out. Just going to really switch gears in training and have a lot of cardio and hiit training.

 

[Old Witch]

That may work even better for me.
I honestly don't plan on being ina huge calorie deficit. Why? Wel because I really like to eat. In fact I won't lower total calories by all that much, just gonna up protein and cut some carbs out. Just going to really switch gears in training and have a lot of cardio and hiit training.

I was hoping you would say something like that. Don’t be a goon, if you feel like you’re losing muscle, up the protein don’t just ride it out. I’m sure you knew that already but you’d be surprised how many vets at this don’t even understand the concept. “But bro, if I like, eat more, I’m gonna like, stop cutting and be on a bulk or something.” < don’t be that guy