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27g 1/2 for testosterone injections

Don’t you want to go deeper when you do IM? I use 25g 1” or 1-1/2” when I do IM.

For delts and quads it works great! I don't have any fat in those areas though. For glutes I use 27g 1" luer lock, but end up wasting a fair bit, so I try to use the slin pin whenever possible!
 
25 g is the best , 27 you'l feel less pain

Less pain when injecting and over the next couple of days. The slin pin also slides in with less force, causes less damage, leaves less scar tissue, and forces you to deposit the oil much slower. It takes some patience, but it's worth it imo.
 
Less pain when injecting and over the next couple of days. The slin pin also slides in with less force, causes less damage, leaves less scar tissue, and forces you to deposit the oil much slower. It takes some patience, but it's worth it imo.
How do you keep it steady when pushing hard for a while, even with 25g its waving round inside the muscle sometimes and that has to be doing more damage than just being able to shoot it in quick right?
 
How do you keep it steady when pushing hard for a while, even with 25g its waving round inside the muscle sometimes and that has to be doing more damage than just being able to shoot it in quick right?

I haven't had any problems. I push it all the way in and keep pressure on the entire syringe til I'm ready to remove it. I've got the barrel in my palm with all four fingers wrapped around it and my thumb sending the load.
 
It won’t kill you. If you’re really lean it’s probably not an issue like mentioned above. How many ml’s are you injecting and in what frequency?
 
27s are hard to push the fluid through, but they slide in like butter and you don't feel a thing. I wouldn't recommend 1/2 27g needles, I would get something much longer.

Invalid Link Removed sells 27g needles at 1"25'. That sounds like it's really long, but it's not. The problem with the 1,2" suggestion is that it will burning and cause pain in the area, especially if you're using something like test prop or NPP.
 
27s are hard to push the fluid through, but they slide in like butter and you don't feel a thing. I wouldn't recommend 1/2 27g needles, I would get something much longer.

Invalid Link Removed sells 27g needles at 1"25'. That sounds like it's really long, but it's not. The problem with the 1,2" suggestion is that it will burning and cause pain in the area, especially if you're using something like test prop or NPP.

Personally, I get less PIP with the 1/2" slin pin. I'm not sure going deeper causes less. I suggest you try it for yourself.
 
Personally, I get less PIP with the 1/2" slin pin. I'm not sure going deeper causes less. I suggest you try it for yourself.

I'm not sure why, but the closer it is to the surface, the more painful it is. If you inject it deep it's going to be surrounded by muscle tissue. It might be if you inject too shallow there are a lot of nerve endings in that area.
 
I use the 27g 1/2 into the vg's and have absolutely zero pip.. I warm the oil up first. It injects very easy.
 
That'll be totally fine as long as you're not plowing through a ton of fat. I use 29g 1/2" slin pin.

I do this as well. I keep it 1ml and under when I use this method but it works just fine. I do bury the pin tho.
 
I do this as well. I keep it 1ml and under when I use this method but it works just fine. I do bury the pin tho.

I think the pressure of being able to bury the pin helps keep it from moving around as you're pushing the T in. For me, this basically eliminates PIP entirely.
 
I think the pressure of being able to bury the pin helps keep it from moving around as you're pushing the T in. For me, this basically eliminates PIP entirely.
This. Not to mention it’s not like test c is something that is known for PIP
 
This. Not to mention it’s not like test c is something that is known for PIP

I get slight PIP from Test E and zero from Deca with this method. When I switch back to TRT and use Sust again, I expect it to be slightly worse than Test E, but nowhere near as bad as when I was using 23g 1" buried.
 
I get slight PIP from Test E and zero from Deca with this method. When I switch back to TRT and use Sust again, I expect it to be slightly worse than Test E, but nowhere near as bad as when I was using 23g 1" buried.
My TRT is .35ml test c (140mg total) x2 a week plus .25ml (100mg total) deca x2 a week. So only .6ml at a time twice a week. No pip when I use 29ga 1/2” slin in my delt and none when I use 25ga 1”-1 1/2” for my glutes. I just rotate around
 
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