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2017 NFL Draft & Season Chat Thread

Bryce Treggs complains about $25,000 fine, gets Twitter response from Damarious Randall
Trevor Siemian named Broncos starting quarterback
Jaguars rule Leonard Fournette, three others out vs. Panthers
Seahawks acquire OL Matt Tobin, 2018 7th-round pick from Eagles
Giants' Michael Bowie surrenders on domestic assault, other charges
 
Giants' Ben McAdoo vague on status of injured WRs Odell Beckham Jr., Brandon Marshall
Matt Forte practices for first time in 3 weeks, ready for Saturday's preseason game
Chargers' Max Tuerk attributes four-game suspension to supplements
 
Chad Henne picked to start Jags' next preseason game over Blake Bortles
Raiders LT Donald Penn returns to practice, ending 26-day holdout
Tyrunn Walker re-signs with Rams to bolster defensive line
Colin Kaepernick 'getting a raw deal'; NAACP seeks Goodell meeting over QB
49ers' Katie Sowers becomes NFL's first openly gay coach, second woman to hold full-time post
Browns pick rookie QB DeShone Kizer to start Saturday, eye trade for Brock Osweiler
 
Oconns28 said:
Jags need to cut Bortles and sign kaep
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As a Jags fan, I will say "maybe" to that. Bortles is garbage and Henne is old and at his ceiling. I would personally like to see Brandon Allen get a REAL shot as he has been pretty great when he has touched the field this year (albeit against bench warmers). Kaep would require us to change the playbook to fit his style and that might be a lot for a team that just hasn't been very good. I would like to see Allen get a shot and then if it doesn't work, draft for a stud this next draft.

But I'd live with Kaep. I think he has talent for sure and don't give a crap about the political stuff. I don't hold that against him.
 
The Solution said:
You sound like a Browns fan with wanting to cut your first round draft pick, especially at the QB Position :)
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Certainly not a browns fan lol. I'm not a big Kaep fan, I just think he's better than a few QBs currently projected to start. I view it all for fantasy football purposes. I'd never start Henne but Kaep can get points! Lol
 
Oconns28 said:
Certainly not a browns fan lol. I'm not a big Kaep fan, I just think he's better than a few QBs currently projected to start. I view it all for fantasy football purposes. I'd never start Henne but Kaep can get points! Lol
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Kaep's days were numbered before the political stuff. I think he knew it too. NFL defenses adapted very quickly to QBs like him. Where's Chip Kelly? Keep the college garbage in college.
 
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cubsfan815 said:
Kaep's days were numbered before the political stuff. I think he knew it too. NFL defenses adapted very quickly to QBs like him. Where's Chip Kelly? Keep the college garbage in college.
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This isn't entirely true. Teams didn't really adapt to him more so than everything around him changed. He led the 49ers to a Super Bowl. Harbaugh is fired. Willis retires. Borland retires. Half the team leaves. New coach. New offense. Fired after a year. New coach. New offense. Fired after a year. Fired GM.

The 49ers are a bigger dumpster fire than Kaep. I don't attribute his down seasons to him sucking. He was injured, on a team void of talent, with a crappy, unstable front office.
 
Woody said:
This isn't entirely true. Teams didn't really adapt to him more so than everything around him changed. He led the 49ers to a Super Bowl. Harbaugh is fired. Willis retires. Borland retires. Half the team leaves. New coach. New offense. Fired after a year. New coach. New offense. Fired after a year. Fired GM.

The 49ers are a bigger dumpster fire than Kaep. I don't attribute his down seasons to him sucking. He was injured, on a team void of talent, with a crappy, unstable front office.
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You can say the same for Jay Cutler then. Jay is better than Kaep, Glennon, etc. However he had constant changing O Lines, OCs, QB coaches, etc.
 
cubsfan815 said:
You can say the same for Jay Cutler then. Jay is better than Kaep, Glennon, etc. However he had constant changing O Lines, OCs, QB coaches, etc.
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Cutler has a much larger sample size- but yes, the bears are trash. Glennon is young and showed promise with Bucs. If i'm rebuilding, I'd take a flier on the young guy with upside than the guy you know what you're getting (especially if Gase isn't my OC/HC)
 
dougefresh93 said:
replace trash with more trash? Good thing next year's draft will be loaded with QB talent.

Jets, Jags, Bills should all be in the market for one.
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He gives them a better chance to win this season, I'm not saying sign him long term. 1 year deal and he's more entertaining to watch. I hate him tho since he ran all around the packers years ago
 
Oconns28 said:
He gives them a better chance to win this season, I'm not saying sign him long term. 1 year deal and he's more entertaining to watch. I hate him tho since he ran all around the packers years ago
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want entertaining, sign Tebow :)

honestly a team like the Jags are best off just bottoming out this year and drafting Sam Darnold or Josh Allen.
 
dougefresh93 said:
you say Darnold will be a bust and suggest Jackson.

Jackson will wash out of the NFL in 4 years.
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Name one starting QB from USC, ever. You can't. You can't name one from USC, Alabama, Texas, Florida, etc. The top 8 QB schools rarely produce NFL QBs.
 
Woody said:
Name one starting QB from USC, ever. You can't. You can't name one from USC, Alabama, Texas, Florida, etc. The top 8 QB schools rarely produce NFL QBs.
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Not that it proves Darnold will pan out, but Carson Palmer has held onto a starting spot in Arizona for years despite a lot of bad luck and injuries. Your point still stands but I figure I'd give one USC guy props. Sanchez made two AFC Championships, but the Jets kind of did that DESPITE him. Killer defense and running game those years. Haha.
 
Martyfnemec said:
Not that it proves Darnold will pan out, but Carson Palmer has held onto a starting spot in Arizona for years despite a lot of bad luck and injuries. Your point still stands but I figure I'd give one USC guy props. Sanchez made two AFC Championships, but the Jets kind of did that DESPITE him. Killer defense and running game those years. Haha.
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Touché on Palmer. Forgot about him. Actually like him.

I hate Colin Cowherd almost as much as I hate Chris Collinsworth (maybe it's a Colin thing) but give this a listen.

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Woody said:
Name one starting QB from USC, ever. You can't. You can't name one from USC, Alabama, Texas, Florida, etc. The top 8 QB schools rarely produce NFL QBs.
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USC i do believe still have the most NFL QBs in the league, other than Palmer, not of them are very good, but they get there (kessler, butt fumble, cassel).

as a side note i can name 4 MSU QBs in the nfl, Cook, Stanton, Cousins, and Hoyer.

Cal has Groff (talk about bust) and Rodgers.

Is there a single Alabama, Florida, or Texas QB in the league, i got nothing off the top of my head.

and Texas AM pulling Kellen Mond and Texas Tech having the best passing game year in and year out are bigger draws for HS recruits than Texas now.

i think the sample size on Darnold is too small to tell how good of a pro he'll be.


Colin Cowherd is the worse!
 
dougefresh93 said:
USC i do believe still have the most NFL QBs in the league, other than Palmer, not of them are very good, but they get there (kessler, butt fumble, cassel).

as a side note i can name 4 MSU QBs in the nfl, Cook, Stanton, Cousins, and Hoyer.

Cal has Groff (talk about bust) and Rodgers.

Is there a single Alabama, Florida, or Texas QB in the league, i got nothing off the top of my head.

and Texas AM pulling Kellen Mond and Texas Tech having the best passing game year in and year out are bigger draws for HS recruits than Texas now.

i think the sample size on Darnold is too small to tell how good of a pro he'll be.


Colin Cowherd is the worse!
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Bama has McCarron, who is the backup for the Bengals. He actually did decent when he had to step in during the Playoffs against Pitt. Cincy won that before Cincy's defense gifted Pitt 30 yards worth of penalty yards on the final play and put a pretty bow on the game as they gave it to them.

Florida has no one (unless you count Cam Newton's 1 year there before getting kicked out for stealing a laptop) and I definitely can't think of a Texas QB either.
 
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Well the last 2 texas QBs have been Colt Mccoy and Vince Young i believe. I know VY is in Canada and I think McCoy got cut last year by the Redskins, im unsure if anyone picked him up for camp this year or not though.
 
Martyfnemec said:
Bama has McCarron, who is the backup for the Bengals. He actually did decent when he had to step in during the Playoffs against Pitt. Cincy won that before Cincy's defense gifted Pitt 30 yards worth of penalty yards on the final play and put a pretty bow on the game as they gave it to them.

Florida has no one (unless you count Cam Newton's 1 year there before getting kicked out for stealing a laptop) and I definitely can't think of a Texas QB either.
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aww i forgot him...
 
Big Ben - Miami Ohio
Matt Ryan - Boston College
Tom Brady - Michigan, 6th round
Andrew Luck - Stanford
Aaron Rodgers - Cal, late first.
Drew Brees - Purdue
Russell Wilson - Wisconsin, 3rd round
Derek Carr - Fresno State, 2nd round
Matt Stafford - Georgia
Phillip Rivers - NC State
Andy Dalton - TCU, 2nd round
Joe Flacco - Delaware
Eli Manning - Ole Miss
Marcus Mariota - Oregon
Ryan Tannehill - A&M
 
Cam Newton marches Carolina down field in 10-play TD drive, exits
Chad Henne has turnover-free start; mixed results for Blake Bortles
Dez Bryant taken aback by criticism, says he cares about racial issues
Bills' LeSean McCoy says Colin Kaepernick's play not worth 'distraction' he comes with
 
MRI to determine extent of knee injury suffered by Chiefs' Spencer Ware
Lions LB Tahir Whitehead leaves game with knee injury
NFLPA denied notes in Ezekiel Elliott's suspension appeal
49ers coach Kyle Shanahan: Releasing Ahmad Brooks 'real hard to do'
Falcons WR Julio Jones to get 'a few' reps vs. Cardinals
 
Julian Edelman scheduled for MRI today as well. Thought to have sustained an ACL injury last night.
 
-Pats receiver Julian Edelman and chiefs RB Spencer Ware both suffered knee injuries. Edleman's has been confirmed as an ACL tear. Ware's is being described as a 'sprain' (PCL) right now.
-Pats also released DE Kony Ealy. The club traded spots with the panthers in the 2017 draft to acquire Ealy. Three weeks into their preseason, the club decided that Ealy doesnt 'fit the scheme' as they hoped. A young DE is now available.
-The jags named Blake Bortles their starting QB for 2017
-OT Brian Bulaga suffered an ankle injury Thursday. Surgery is reportedly not needed. Out for the rest of preseaon and will re-evaluate his status for week 1.
-Browns LT Joe Thomas was mistakenly (but hilariously) deemed 'First Offensive Lineman in NFL History'
-Eagles DL Beau Allen will come off of PUP from his torn pec
-49ers are expected to release LB Ahmad Brooks
-Saints LB Dannell Ellerbe was cleared by Drs regarding his foot injury. Expected released from IR.
 
Martavis Bryant accuses Colts' Matthias Farley of intentional late hit
Rookie DeShone Kizer will start at QB for Browns in season opener vs. Steelers
J.J. Watt tells Houston to stay safe; Glover Quin concerned for family
Jets claim DE Kony Ealy off waivers
Tyrod Taylor, T.J. Yates concussions leave Bills short-handed at QB
Bears fear WR Cameron Meredith injured ACL vs. Titans

Steelers Landry Jones unimpressed me. If Ben goes down this year I hope our defense can somehow manage to keep the Black & gold afloat into the playoffs
 
Lol at martavis bryant trying to act like a team player. Steelers bias much Bob?
 
jswain34 said:
Lol at martavis bryant trying to act like a team player. Steelers bias much Bob?
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Its the #1 headline on ESPN
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and I am from PA, so that is why I am a steeler fan. My brother use to be Troy Polamalu's client (his pharmacist who made all his painkillers) in Pittsburgh before he retired from the sport.
 
Josh McCown named Jets starting quarterback for opener
Texans-Cowboys preseason game moved to AT&T Stadium
Colts' Matthias Farley denies trying to intentionally hurt Steelers' Martavis Bryant
Doug Marrone: Blake Bortles 'best I've seen him' since QB renamed starter
Miami coach Adam Gase says WR Jarvis Landry won't be traded
Ravens announce contract extension for John Harbaugh Monday till 2019
 
Tiger-Cats worked out Johnny Manziel but didn't sign him
Veteran CB Joe Haden expected to sign 3-year deal with Steelers
Browns trade former first-rounder Cam Erving to Chiefs for pick
LB Ahmad Brooks to finalize deal with Packers
Bears WR Cameron Meredith to have left ACL surgery
 
Ezekiel Elliott hearing ends; Harold Henderson pressured for ruling by Monday
Panthers add $2M in incentives to Greg Olsen's contract
Lions get 2019 draft pick from 49ers for OG Laken Tomlinson
Steelers GM Kevin Colbert gets two-year extension
Texans sign safety Andre Hal to three-year, $15M extension
Johnny Manziel, eager to play in CFL, still in talks with Tiger-Cats
 
QB Brock Osweiler released by Browns
Cowboys file court papers in support of emergency motion in Ezekiel Elliott case
Seahawks trade WR Jermaine Kearse for Sheldon Richardson
Saints WR Willie Snead suspended three games
Steelers WR Martavis Bryant cleared to play in regular-season practices, games
Cardinals release veteran RB Chris Johnson
 
Pats acquire WR Phillip Dorsett from Colts for QB Jacoby Brissett
Broncos to place Shane Ray on IR, eye midseason return
Ra'Shede Hageman on exempt list as NFL reviews charges
Steelers trade Sammie Coates to Browns for 2018 sixth-round pick
Steelers trade Ross Cockrell to Giants for conditional pick
Colin Kaepernick looked at by Jaguars, who decided to pass
 
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Big fan of the Brissett trade. The Colts have been shopping Dorsett for a while now the Colts have a QB not named Toziel (will probably still start week 1) til Luck gets back. Im hoping around week 3 or 4 for Luck.
 
Elway and the rest of the organization only having to pay Osweiler veteran's minimum?


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Here are some of the notable cuts/acquisitions from cut day:
-Bears: will take Pernell McPhee off of PUP, released RB Jeremy Langford
-Chargers: rookie WR Mike Willaims will come off of PUP; claim OT Michael Schofiled; released K Josh Lambo
-49ers: released WR Jeremy Lerley
-Vikings: releasaed G Alex Boone, placed DT Sharrif Floyd on reserve/NFI
-Colts: QB Andrew Luck taken off of PUP; add RB Matt Jones; released C Brian Schwenke
-Steelers: released CB Senquez Golson
-Broncos to sign QB Brock Osweiler for vet minimum of ~$750K, I believe thats what it is. Should happen Monday after/if he passes physical. So the browns will still owe him $15mil ($16mil minus the vet min) this yr.
-Seattle: waived QB Trevoyne Boykin, RB Alex Collins, released TE Marcel Reece; traded DE Cassius Marsh to NE
-Buccs land FA S TJ Ward on a 1 yr up to $5mil deal; traded S JJ Wilcox to steelers for a 2018 6th rd pick
-Saints: claim QB Taysom Hill, WR Austin Carr
-Bills: released RB Jonathan Willimas; traded CB Kevon Seymour to panthers for WR Kaelin Clay
-Titans: signed WR Eric Weems, placed WR Harry Douglas on IR
-Panthers: claim QB Brad Kaaya
-Houston: claims WR Andy Jones (Cowboy 'darling')
-Jets: cut WR Lucky Whitehead and LB Bruce Carteer; claim TE Will Tye
-Washington: claim OT TJ Clemmings; placed S Su'a Cravens, who had discussed retirement with teammates YESTERDAY on exepmt/left squad list
-Eagles: sign QB Nate Sudfeld (formerly with Wash)
-Browns: claim QB Josh Woodrum and WR Kasen Williams
-Giants: placed LB Mark Herzlich on IR, released K Mike Nugent and QB Josh Johnson
-Chiefs: released TE Gavin Escobar, trade OL Isiah Battle to seattle
-Rams: released QB Dan Orlovsky, TE Cory Harkey, place RB Lance Dunbar on Reserve/PUP

I may have missed a few, but tried to gather everything I could find.
 
NFL tracks hurricane, explores idea of moving Dolphins-Bucs game
Zeke will practice until he gets final verdict on suspension
T.J. Ward: Deserved better treatment before Broncos cut
Brock Osweiler says first day back with Broncos 'incredible'.... lets be real he is still getting paid $16 mil from the browns and on a different team. yeah I would be happy too
Tim Shaw, who is battling ALS, named one of 6 Titans captains
Holdout Aaron Donald doesn't report for Rams practice Monday
Andrew luck out for season opener.
 
Dolphins-Buccaneers won't be played in Miami Sunday as Irma looms..
Mike Zimmer insists Vikings focused on beating Saints, not 'Adrian Peterson' as AP is now the running back for the Saints after leaving Minn
Jeremy Kerley returns to Jets with one-year contract (WR)
Cardinals sign guard Alex Boone to one-year contract (OL)
Redskins QB Kirk Cousins says he'll play no matter when baby born (IMO seeing your child born is more important then 1 football game) Wife is due the 18th
Steelers name rookie T.J. Watt starting LB over James Harrison ... my thing.. play them BOTH
 
Arbitrator Harold Henderson has upheld the six-game suspension for Dallas Cowboys running back Ezekiel Elliott on Tuesday, a source told ESPN's Chris Mortensen.
 
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Miami vs TB game postponed to week 11 as Irma speeds towards the Florida coast.
 
Seattle Seahawks star defensive end Michael Bennett has accused police officers of pointing guns at him and using excessive force during an incident in Las Vegas last month.

Odell Beckham Jr. doesn't practice, says not to count him out vs. Cowboys

Titans' Marcus Mariota: Season opener is 'last benchmark' in return

Browns' Myles Garrett tweaks ankle in practice
 
The Solution said:
Seattle Seahawks star defensive end Michael Bennett has accused police officers of pointing guns at him and using excessive force during an incident in Las Vegas last month.

Odell Beckham Jr. doesn't practice, says not to count him out vs. Cowboys

Titans' Marcus Mariota: Season opener is 'last benchmark' in return

Browns' Myles Garrett tweaks ankle in practice
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Have you seen the video yet. They did treat him wrong until they realized who he was. Even Las Vegas Police are now investigating the situation
 
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