2 Week Superdrol / Epistane

[harryforreal]

Hey guys,

My objective is to minimise hairloss.

I will be using minoxidil on cycle and after as i am already on it and am looking into getting some azelaic acid as well.

What do you think would be better. Im going to go for a short cycle - 2 weeks.

Superdrol

20/20

or

10/10


or

Epi


What do you think would provide the least hairloss while at the same time some muscle mass.

I have run epi before for 4 weeks and encountered major shedding at week 3 - 30mg.

Thanks.

 

[BigBlackGuy]

If you're trying to minimize hair loss, just don't take any steroids/phs. I don't even think superdrol causes increased hair loss, because although it is a dht like substance, it isn't dht. I've also heard that using dht blockers on the hair while using superdrol can cause increased hair loss.

Why are you using so little? IMO 20/20 superdrol will yield nothing but maybe 10 lbs. of gains, most of it glycogen retention. No sign of a PCT either, though you may not even need a chemical/OTC product to get back on track.

However, most people ignore the nutrition/training side of PCT, which imo is more important than a SERM/OTC product.

Either way... for a 2 week cycle you can EASILY push the superdrol/epi to 50mg a week. That way you'll have hope for gaining something. Epi takes a little longer to kick in than superdrol (from what i've read) and you'll probably want that for 3 weeks minimum.

 

[Libertarian]

As long as you never stay "on" for more than 14 days, you can safely run 2-on/2-off 3-4 times in a row while extending the last "off" period to 4-6 weeks. Also, you'd need to run a SERM during the "off" periods. I personally use Nolva 20mg/day, frontloaded 120mg on the first day.

2-weekers is what I run these days. I've posted about it many times here you can pull up my posts if interested.

I would say that a single 2-weeker won't yield very exciting gains. However, running 3-4 in a row definitely will. This is especially true because the gains tend to continue during the "off" weeks. Also, shutdown is very minor and hardly noticeable if noticeable at all. Although, it sounds like you probably won't be running injectables, which implies heavy use of orals, so you might want to periodically check your liver values.

If you run SD, I'd say go for 20mg/day if not 30. The only reason I would run less than 30mg is if the sides were too brutal.

For your hair, you might want to try adding in some Nizoral shampoo. To take it one step further, you could crush some spironolactone tabs and mix it in your shampoo or just buy some spironolactone cream and apply some at night.

 

[harryforreal]

Cheers,

Im thinking i will go with Superdrol 20/20 and see how it goes.

Your right i didn't mention pct, just wanted to focus on the cycle.
I have Nolva which im going to run.

Do you think crushing up some finasteride and adding it to the shampoo would work? or at least work as well as using some spiro tabs?

Much keener using it in a shampoo than having a cream as i am already using minxoidil.

 

[Libertarian]

Cheers,

Im thinking i will go with Superdrol 20/20 and see how it goes.

Your right i didn't mention pct, just wanted to focus on the cycle.
I have Nolva which im going to run.

Do you think crushing up some finasteride and adding it to the shampoo would work? or at least work as well as using some spiro tabs?

Much keener using it in a shampoo than having a cream as i am already using minxoidil.

I wouldn't bother with topical finasteride: Invalid Link Removed . On the other hand, spironolactone and ketoconazole (active ingredient in Nizoral) are known to be effective anti-androgens when used topically. I think if you can attain success with the topical stuff, there is no reason to consider something like Finasteride.

I think spironolactone + ketoconazole is a great combination. I took some ketoconazole cream and mixed in some crushed spironolactone tabs into it and use it to eliminate cycle-related acne. Ever since my first cycle I had acne on my shoulders (never had it before in my life) and it wouldn't go away even off cycle. Everything I tried before did nothing but the spironolactone + ketoconazole combo wiped it out.

 

[harryforreal]

Good point. I have Nizoral 2% Shampoo at the moment, think i will get hold of some spiro tabs and crush them into that.
So Nizoral + Spiro Shampoo and Minoxidill ED - Should be a fairly useful combo. I have also got some azelaic acid cream.

Would you suggest just applying that after applying Minoxidill?

Will the gains vs sides of running SD 20/20 vs 30/30 be significant?

 

[Libertarian]

Good point. I have Nizoral 2% Shampoo at the moment, think i will get hold of some spiro tabs and crush them into that.
So Nizoral + Spiro Shampoo and Minoxidill ED - Should be a fairly useful combo. I have also got some azelaic acid cream.

Would you suggest just applying that after applying Minoxidill?

Will the gains vs sides of running SD 20/20 vs 30/30 be significant?

Or maybe alternating them.

I haven't run SD enough personally to make a comparison. I ran it at 30mg/day but the sides were pretty harsh for me unless I ate tons of carbs. It DOES pack on the mass, though.

I'd say try it at 30mg/day, and if the sides become bothersome just drop down the dosage. Not everyone is so effected by SD sides.