2 week PH Cylce Question

[Juice3300]

First off, I am 18 years old and am about 7% bf. I just won my first posing comp this summer and now I am transitioning to bulking. I am doing a workout called the Growth Surge Program which is in 3 stages of 2 week periods. I am going to run a 2 week cycle of PH's with a 2-4 week PCT during the second 2 week phase of the program in order to heal and stay anabolic as I will be working out two times per day/ six days per week for two weeks. I am going to do the cycle so please just help me with this one question: Do you think that 2 weeks of PH's would cause any sides or negative effects when accompanied with a solid PCT?

 

[A_I_Sports_Nutrition]

First off, I am 18 years old and am about 7% bf. I just won my first posing comp this summer and now I am transitioning to bulking. I am doing a workout called the Growth Surge Program which is in 3 stages of 2 week periods. I am going to run a 2 week cycle of PH's with a 2-4 week PCT during the second 2 week phase of the program in order to heal and stay anabolic as I will be working out two times per day/ six days per week for two weeks. I am going to do the cycle so please just help me with this one question: Do you think that 2 weeks of PH's would cause any sides or negative effects when accompanied with a solid PCT?

At 18 you really should not be using steriods. They can do more harm than good at your age. I would not mess with them till your at least 23.

 

[Juice3300]

Techinically they are not steroids although they are almost as powerful. I am going to run the cycle. If someone could please give me some good input as to whether two weeks could cause any sides or endocrine damage? It is a very short cycle and I do not think that I am in any sort of danger of major sides but I would like other members' input as well

At 18 you really should not be using steriods. They can do more harm than good at your age. I would not mess with them till your at least 23.

 

[A_I_Sports_Nutrition]

Techinically they are not steroids although they are almost as powerful. I am going to run the cycle. If someone could please give me some good input as to whether two weeks could cause any sides or endocrine damage? It is a very short cycle and I do not think that I am in any sort of danger of major sides but I would like other members' input as well

What are you running?

 

[Juice3300]

Thank you for your help. I'm running primordial performance's xtreme muscle hardcore muscle stack. However, I am only running the PH for two weeks and then hitting the PCT. The product is called 1-T Tren. It is known as 19-Norandrosta-4,9-diene-3,17-dione [aka, Estra-4,9-diene-3,17-dione] and is a transdermal creme, not an oral PH.

What are you running?

 

[A_I_Sports_Nutrition]

Thank you for your help. I'm running primordial performance's xtreme muscle hardcore muscle stack. However, I am only running the PH for two weeks and then hitting the PCT. The product is called 1-T Tren. It is known as 19-Norandrosta-4,9-diene-3,17-dione [aka, Estra-4,9-diene-3,17-dione] and is a transdermal creme, not an oral PH.

This is a steriod. Again at your age you should not be messing with it. Seriously you can really do more harm to your body than anything good. 2 weeks is to short to be of any benefit. The only thing 2 weeks will really do is shut you down.

 

[rammy222]

Thank you for your help. I'm running primordial performance's xtreme muscle hardcore muscle stack. However, I am only running the PH for two weeks and then hitting the PCT. The product is called 1-T Tren. It is known as 19-Norandrosta-4,9-diene-3,17-dione [aka, Estra-4,9-diene-3,17-dione] and is a transdermal creme, not an oral PH.

Pls dont be hard headed and listen to what he is telling you.

1st. These ARE steroids
2nd. Tren will shut you down and at 18 who knows what else.
3rd. They ARE as powerful as steroids.
4th. Do more research. At 18 your full of test and should make gains easy and pretty fast with the right training,rest,diet.

 

[Juice3300]

I know the risks and I thank you again for your help. I am being a little hard headed but I will be working out with weights TWICE per day for two weeks and it is recommended to take PH's while on this two week cycle. As an alternative to PH's what do you think about taking 17-HD and Anabolic 7 as they are all natural?

This is a steriod. Again at your age you should not be messing with it. Seriously you can really do more harm to your body than anything good. 2 weeks is to short to be of any benefit. The only thing 2 weeks will really do is shut you down.

 

[Juice3300]

I am full of test at this age, however, I only produce 20mg of test more per week than an adult male so I'm really not that much better off scientifically. I have done my research and more. I am a certified personal trainer and just won my first bodybuilding comp this summer. I have been bodybuilding for four years and lifting for 6. I AM NOT an amatuer lifter. I just want to clarify that. Thanks again for your replies

Pls dont be hard headed and listen to what he is telling you.

1st. These ARE steroids
2nd. Tren will shut you down and at 18 who knows what else.
3rd. They ARE as powerful as steroids.
4th. Do more research. At 18 your full of test and should make gains easy and pretty fast with the right training,rest,diet.

 

[A_I_Sports_Nutrition]

I know the risks and I thank you again for your help. I am being a little hard headed but I will be working out with weights TWICE per day for two weeks and it is recommended to take PH's while on this two week cycle. As an alternative to PH's what do you think about taking 17-HD and Anabolic 7 as they are all natural?

Whoever or whatever recommended steriods because of working out twice a day is just wrong. At your age eat a ton and clean lift lots of heavy stuff get some proper rest and you will be good to go.

 

[Juice3300]

I am all natural and have been for the past five years and I have gotten GREAT results (but I have worked my ass off) and I just previously won my first posing comp and I am also a Peak Model for MirImage. I have taken Vyotech's 17-HD twice in my life (but it is not a PH. It is all natural) for a two, two-week periods. I had no problems with it (due to the short cycle and it is made of herbs) and I also followed with ZMA and a PCT (even though I did not need it) just to be safe and got great, safe gains from it on this program. Just for reference what do you think about 17-HD and if you don't mind me asking, what is your age? Thank you again for your help.

 

[A_I_Sports_Nutrition]

I am all natural and have been for the past five years and I have gotten GREAT results (but I have worked my ass off) and I just previously won my first posing comp and I am also a Peak Model for MirImage. I have taken Vyotech's 17-HD twice in my life (but it is not a PH. It is all natural) for a two, two-week periods. I had no problems with it (due to the short cycle and it is made of herbs) and I also followed with ZMA and a PCT (even though I did not need it) just to be safe and got great, safe gains from it on this program. Just for reference what do you think about 17-HD and if you don't mind me asking, what is your age? Thank you again for your help.

Well if you used it and felt it helped and it all natural go for it. I am 47 yrs old.

 

[SemiBulimic]

Listen to pembroke he's told you everything you need to know. Seriously, at your age steroids are the last things you need - you didn't even know 1-tren was a steroid so you haven't done your research. Stay the natural route, this forum and many others are full of kids who've done themselves longterm damage taking DS's and PH's and not even knowing that's what they were. Trust me, at 18 you ARE an amateur lifter and have so much growing left to do, both physically and mentally. This isn't a put-down, just a wake-up-call

 

[Juice3300]

Well thank you for your concern. I do appreciate it. And I HAVE done my reseach. I knew that 1-Tren was a steroid, but on the specs of primordial's supplement "1-T Tren" it shows that they have modified the molecular strand of the PH so that it is not "Tren" anymore but it is extremely close. They only put "Tren" in the name as a marketing tool because the strand they put in the supplement was very close to the molecular make-up of Tren. Also, they could not sell Tren as a certified supplement company as it is illegal. There is always more to learn in bodybuilding and I am certified in steroids awareness (do classes every year for people) and nutriton and personal training so I know my facts. However, I was wondering if anyone knew how safe this "modified strand" in Primordial Performance's products was because I was not familiar with it.

Listen to pembroke he's told you everything you need to know. Seriously, at your age steroids are the last things you need - you didn't even know 1-tren was a steroid so you haven't done your research. Stay the natural route, this forum and many others are full of kids who've done themselves longterm damage taking DS's and PH's and not even knowing that's what they were. Trust me, at 18 you ARE an amateur lifter and have so much growing left to do, both physically and mentally. This isn't a put-down, just a wake-up-call

 

[Juice3300]

I'm not going to. Thanks for everyone for the replies. I'm just going to stick with being natural until I'm at least 22. Thanks for all the replies and everyones help. I'm just going to stick with ZMA, vitamins, whey, Nitric Oxide, BCAA's, Creatine, and my normal clean bulking diet. I've come so far already and proved that I don't need steroids to win a bodybuilding comp to take a risk like this. Thanks again, goodluck and God Bless

 

[A_I_Sports_Nutrition]

I'm not going to. Thanks for everyone for the replies. I'm just going to stick with being natural until I'm at least 22. Thanks for all the replies and everyones help. I'm just going to stick with ZMA, vitamins, whey, Nitric Oxide, BCAA's, Creatine, and my normal clean bulking diet. I've come so far already and proved that I don't need steroids to win a bodybuilding comp to take a risk like this. Thanks again, goodluck and God Bless

Very good choice and I wish you the best.

 

[SemiBulimic]

I'm not going to. Thanks for everyone for the replies. I'm just going to stick with being natural until I'm at least 22. Thanks for all the replies and everyones help. I'm just going to stick with ZMA, vitamins, whey, Nitric Oxide, BCAA's, Creatine, and my normal clean bulking diet. I've come so far already and proved that I don't need steroids to win a bodybuilding comp to take a risk like this. Thanks again, goodluck and God Bless

Good choice. If it's not broke why fix it?