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2 on 2 off 2 on wtf?

Brian5225

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I've been researching for my next M1T cycle, and I'm seeing a lot of people with a 2 on 2 off 2 on mentality. I've been considering a 3-4 weeker, then PCT. Am I just an idiot, or wouldn't the 2/2/2 be harder on the indocrine system? I mean with the hormones jumpin around like that, and especially with something as powerful as M1T? Generally wouldn't a 10/20/30/30 be easier on the body then say a 20/20/off/off/20/30 or something along those lines?
 
I think most people on this board would tell you to avoid M1T, as there are better, and certainly safer products on the market now.

M1T will shut you down as fast as any steroid I am aware of, and it will be a slow recovery. It is really the single worst candidate for pulsing. The theory on pulsing is that you can ameriorate HPTA shutdown by building in recovery days, but 2 days of M1T is going to take more than 2 days to recover from.

Have you looked into Epi and Halodrol-50? Much better safety profiles on those. Even Superdrol would be significantly safer.

Edit: I guess you meant 2 weeks on/2 weeks off. Still a bad idea with M1T. You are probably looking at a full 6 weeks, including a rigorous PCT with SERM, to recover from 2 weeks of M1T. Even then, your liver values are probably still bad.
 
I know you're only trying to help, but please don't patronize me. I know very well what halo and epi are. I just finished my log of a pp/sd bridge a couple months back. I know what I'm getting myself into, and I have nolva (in chem and tab form) and clomid on hand. Milk thistle, omega 3's, hawthorn berry, bp monitor, ai's and anything else I may need is on hand. I know what I'm getting myself into, I'm not a newb to this forum, or to chemicals. I appreciate your concern though:) I was referring to the 2week incriments and I don't understand the logic to them.
 
With 2on/2off/2on you would do a mini PCT in the 2off (preferably clomid). However I wouldn't advise this with M1T as its going to shut you down fast and hard. IMO just run it straight.

Also the doses you have (IDK if thats an example or what you're planning) are pretty high, especially if you haven't used M1T. I know people who have gained off 5mg/day. I think M1T is one where low doses are good.

Also if you can get M1T, can you get some test (or 4-diol if oral only) as I here lethargy is horrible.
 
Yeah, the dosages I'm planning on running are 10/20/20/30. The 30 is completely dependant on sides. I'm in the process of getting some 4ad to run with it, but I'm not sure of dosages yet.
 
Yeah, the dosages I'm planning on running are 10/20/20/30. The 30 is completely dependant on sides. I'm in the process of getting some 4ad to run with it, but I'm not sure of dosages yet.


IMO a nice cycle could be:

M1T: 10/10/20/20mg
4-AD: 1000/1000/1000/1000mg

IMO the 4-ad should be 800-1000mg range (assuming taking it orally)
 
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