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1ST TIME WITH PH, GOT THE CUTTING ANDRO KIT, HELP

rickydivmonds

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Alright Guys. 23, 6'1, 185lbs. Goal is to cut. Consuming 2238 Calories a day. Lift 4 days a week, cardio 3. Macros are high pros and fats, low carbs.

I have purchased the Cutting Andro Kit. This is how I plan on running it:

Sure:
weeks 1-6
(weeks 2-5) Epi-2ml 3x daily 8, 5, 10 oclock
(weeks 1-4) 17 pro-1.5ml daily 8, 2, 5, 10 oclock
(weeks 3-6) 1 andro- 3 ml daily 2x daily 8, 5 oclock
cycle assist 2x at night

weeks 5-10
forma xt- 2 pills in morning
cycle assist 2 x at night
c-50/50/25/25

fishoils- 2x in morning
vitamin c- 100 in morning
organic liver support- 2 pills in morning
iodine- 3 drops in morning
multi- 1 in morning
whey- 3 scoops daily

Please let me know what you think, and is all three too heavy for the first time?
 
EatMoar said:
6 foot 1 at 185 is already pretty skinny why are you cutting?
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Good question, I guess honestly not really a cut so much as a hardening phase. Still have 3-4% bodyfat I want to get rid of, especially in the stomach. Probably will ramp my food intake up on cycle for some lean muscle growth. But NOT a bulk, if that makes sense?
 
rickydivmonds said:
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Just so you can see where I'm at
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You need more muscle bud. And your cals are WAY to low. Your metabolism won't function at that rate and you'll hold onto everything. I'd not even bother with hormones and just carb cycle with a 200 calorie deficit .
 
EatMoar said:
You need more muscle bud. And your cals are WAY to low. Your metabolism won't function at that rate and you'll hold onto everything. I'd not even bother with hormones and just carb cycle with a 200 calorie deficit .
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Thanks for the advice, can you tell me if my setup for cycle and PCT looks okay?
 
Agreed....
Save the hormones or send them to me ;-)
I would consume near maintenance cals with carb cycling.
 
rickydivmonds said:
So do you at least think the cycle is ok? Even if I don't run it now?
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I've never messed with any of that but I know for a fact 1-and to/dhea makes you lethargic and that is never a good time. Is this your first time using hormones? Stacking all that at once may be a bad idea bud. Is this the primordial performance andro cut stack.

To be honest I'd sell that kit, keep your pct, and run one compound . I'd trade it for some havoc (epistane) and run that. Lean and very dry gains to be had with that compound.
 
EatMoar said:
I've never messed with any of that but I know for a fact 1-and to/dhea makes you lethargic and that is never a good time. Is this your first time using hormones? Stacking all that at once may be a bad idea bud. Is this the primordial performance andro cut stack.

To be honest I'd sell that kit, keep your pct, and run one compound . I'd trade it for some havoc (epistane) and run that. Lean and very dry gains to be had with that compound.
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It's the LG Sciences kit

out of that kit, which would you run: 1 andro, epiandro, or 17 pro?
 
I'd run 1-andro with some type of test base 4dhea so I'm not lethargic. But you're not going to lose anything without a CLEAN diet and proper calories/macros. And obviously CORRECT training.
 
EatMoar said:
I'd run 1-andro with some type of test base 4dhea so I'm not lethargic. But you're not going to lose anything without a CLEAN diet and proper calories/macros. And obviously CORRECT training.
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Thank you for your honesty and help its much appreciated.
 
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