1st test cycle, whata u think

pheraflex

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sust. 250mgs per week for 10 weeks 2 seperate pins per week.

i'm 24, 6'2, 235 at 10-12% bf.

i've done a phera-max cycle and a havoc/superdrol cycle. gained over 15lbs on each cycle. kept it all (so ya diet and training are in check.)


i was thinking of maybe kickstarting the cycle with sd or maybe even havoc although i hear i dont need to kickstart sust due to the prop in it.

i have nolva for pct of course.

i'm a pinning noob as i've never done it. any suggestions would be great
 
Do you already have the sust? If not I would suggest running Test-E @ 500mg per week for 10-12 weeks. IMO 250mg of test is pretty low. Others will chime in though.
 
i've read that noobs can make substantial gains off of 250 a week. i am also a noob to pinning, but i'm going to do 500 a week. but that's just me;)
 
what are the prices like. my friend said 220 for a 10 weeker of sust at 250mg per week.

why would u suggest test e over sust?

i'm not asking for a mapped out cycle. i've ran cycles. just a couple questions
 
price discussion aint allowed, so edit your post.

test E is a less painful injection than sust, and 'usually' cheaper
 
+1
test E is my first cycle, cleaning up with clomid and then a run of clen to clean the fat.
testE is the reccommend first for a reason- so just follow protocol and go from there. OTC stuff is nothing like a real cycle.
I wish I would have saved my money buying the OTC and just went with the real deal first off.... makes me sick to think of all that cash I spent.
 
Test E allow for a more stable level of hormone in your system, which is important for maximum gains. Also, what is your plan for PCT?
 
nolva, test boosters, paravol. i have testostro grow which has a few things in it besides trib.

test E it is. so 500 a week 250 per injection is the sweet spot eh? start with SD?
 
Frontloading with sdrol isn't too common, someone correct me if I'm wrong? If this is your first cycle I would just stick with the test. You'll be more than impressed with the results.
 
agreed- pin 250x2/week and call it good for the first cycle. Don't go overboard with stuff until you know what your body is going to do with it.
I would not pre with sdrol, not for my first.
 
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