Pypp
Active Member
Thanks man. What's a good cycle for cutting, your abs are insane lol. I'm trying to plan a second cycle at the moment.
Gonna cut this one short an end it in 2 weeks. So I can run another end of summer
1st ever Cycle, Test Prop Only.
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Thanks man. What's a good cycle for cutting, your abs are insane lol. I'm trying to plan a second cycle at the moment.
Gonna cut this one short an end it in 2 weeks. So I can run another end of summer
cookie1
Active Member
Not my abs sorry; ( its josef rakich abs. But Epi and Stano for 6-8weeks rocks if you want to cut down by doing cardio and the classic methods.If you want a cutting ph that drops bf you can go with clen,but on the other hand I wouldn't recommend it because you will face.:shakes (you literally may have to stop simply because of the shakes, trembling hands so you cant write anything), ephedrine (to avoid them you need to take potassium and taurine but still you may get cramps
night sweats (all part of increased body temp)
Maybe you should search about ephedrine which also works like clen but it doesnt have so drastic side effects and over a longer period will give you better results.You can run ephedrine for maximum 8 weeks. With the ephedrine I've heard many buying caffeine and aspirin.
Shrine
Active Member
I'm a big fan of ECA stacks. I'm doing one now. Clen is way too strong in my opinion and I didn't notice to much of a change in physique other then the terrible sides. I was having the worst dreams and it just seemed like it was really taking a toll on my body in a negative way. Maybe it was just me but I don't feel like it's worth the troubles
cookie1
Active Member
Its not only you. Most of the users faced same sides.Its really harsh for your body
SuperPro
Well-known member
Wow that's stupid. I would say this post could fit in the main anabolics section, old school hormone use, or cycle info...
booneman77
Legend
You should have responded with "go home admin, you're drunk"
Pypp
Active Member
Of course. You'll be doing twice the damage scar tissue wise, why not just inject the 150 in one area?
Shrine
Active Member
That sht hurts that's why boy! Lol
booneman77
Legend
Def not a vet but with just prop you really shouldn't have much water bloat due to the gear. More diet related it would seem... If there was some from the gear it should be out fairly quick since the ester clears in a few days. After that it would only depend how much estrogen you have floating around.
Shrine
Active Member
I have had zero bloat with the prop. Im actually really impressed with how much I have leaned out in such a short period of time.
Should PCT start 3 days after your last injection?
booneman77
Legend
Yep 2-3 days is good. What bloat are you referring to then that you're thinking will change when you start pct?
Pypp
Active Member
The bloat I'm referring to is I can notice that I'm retaining water even though I'm getting bigger, leaness is not what it was precycle. A couple friends even noticed too telling me I look bigger but look more bloated then a couple months ago.
larrybailey
Active Member
Friends don't let friends pin their self lol
booneman77
Legend
Did you change anything with your diet or supps once you got on? Add creatine or more carbs or something?
Pypp
Active Member
Only thing I changed was the amount of food. All clean calories but about 500 more cals. Carbs have been averaging 50-70(max) a day. I'm assuming since I'm eating more protein I'm getting more sodium which is bloating me a bit. I was defiantly a lot more cut off then I am on.
booneman77
Legend
That could def be the cause. Sodium bloats me like crazy. Maybe try cutting your sodium real low for about 3 days and see how you react? That will at least allow you to figure out if that's the culprit
Pypp
Active Member
Only problem is I'm going off cycle now lol. I'm starting pct today, final weigh in was at 207.
I think not doing cardio bloated me up a bit too.
booneman77
Legend
That could do it too. Just not sweating off as much water as usual.
Pypp
Active Member
Day 2 of pct
Yesterday's workout felt so tiring. I usually start out the past month in a half on chest and end up doing full body. Yesterday I did chest and started getting tired towards end of the workout, decided to do obliques and bi's and finished up in about an hour at the gym. Can defiantly notice the difference off cycle. Strength is the same just not as much "mental strength".
Keeping my protein/fat intake high, and carbs low for the most part. Looking leaner though. I'm hoping most of my gains will stay, I'd be happy keeping 50% of them. I was hanging out with a girl friend and a she was like "You used to be so leaned and toned, now your just big." Haha
Yesterday's workout felt so tiring. I usually start out the past month in a half on chest and end up doing full body. Yesterday I did chest and started getting tired towards end of the workout, decided to do obliques and bi's and finished up in about an hour at the gym. Can defiantly notice the difference off cycle. Strength is the same just not as much "mental strength".
Keeping my protein/fat intake high, and carbs low for the most part. Looking leaner though. I'm hoping most of my gains will stay, I'd be happy keeping 50% of them. I was hanging out with a girl friend and a she was like "You used to be so leaned and toned, now your just big." Haha
TEH253
Banned
I forget if it was day one or two on pct and I still got the pump thank god and homies were still miring saying I look hella big haha. I'm thinking going tanning before the gym helped out with the vitamin d for energy and that sense of well being. The females are loving my body and I had the best compliment in relation to me and working out. After some bomb ass sex this female asked me "Is is because you exercise?" I've never felt so proud lol. Zyzz mode bro zyzz
booneman77
Legend
Looking good man. Def kept your bf down while you gained. Ill be interested to see how you finish up through pct
Pypp
Active Member
Thanks. I'm excited to see what gains are kept lol. I never worked out abs precycle, I'd do it 1-2 days then not for a month. Obliques/abs were the focus. Everything else obviously went up too. Too bad I still can't deadlift I really wanted to on cycle.
Pypp
Active Member
Day 4 pct. 200lbs
Man I killed it today playing basketball. I can grab rim easily and won 8 games in a row! I'm expecting to drop hella weight from that but it'll help me start my cut. Gonna keep consistency with cardio now, 20-30 mins. Been eating great and plan on continuing that.
My buddy just started his prop cycle and not gonna lie I'm hella jealous lol. Can't wait to see his gains
Man I killed it today playing basketball. I can grab rim easily and won 8 games in a row! I'm expecting to drop hella weight from that but it'll help me start my cut. Gonna keep consistency with cardio now, 20-30 mins. Been eating great and plan on continuing that.
My buddy just started his prop cycle and not gonna lie I'm hella jealous lol. Can't wait to see his gains
Pypp
Active Member
Day 7 pct 202
Pcts going good. Taste like **** though but I've been using oj as a chaser. Pumps great just not seeing pr anymore and I'm fine with that. Gonna focus more on high reps now to densify my muscles.
Went clubbin last night and got accused of using steroids by at least 3 people that I remember lol. Was way too faded, but first time I drank in 4 months or so. Idk if ill hit gym today, might just wake up early tomorrow and get the 3am workout in.
Pcts going good. Taste like **** though but I've been using oj as a chaser. Pumps great just not seeing pr anymore and I'm fine with that. Gonna focus more on high reps now to densify my muscles.
Went clubbin last night and got accused of using steroids by at least 3 people that I remember lol. Was way too faded, but first time I drank in 4 months or so. Idk if ill hit gym today, might just wake up early tomorrow and get the 3am workout in.
TEH253
Banned
Pypp
Active Member
Lucky ass. Lol I miss seeing gains at the gym. Enjoy the ride man!
Shrine
Active Member
You should have definitely gone on the prop longer bro. I feel like week 4 I started to really see and feel drastic results. Let's see how this Var treats me. Haha
Pypp
Active Member
Pct day 15 195lbs
Haven't hit the gym in a few days, been busy with work and school. Looks like I'm not going to be going on the Cali trip after all and could have been on cycle longer. Which pissed me off lol. But the amount of muscle I gained I'm proud of, it's defiantly sticking through pct so far.
Gonna hit back and bis tomorrow. Will be playing volleyball all afternoon today getting that cardio in!
Haven't hit the gym in a few days, been busy with work and school. Looks like I'm not going to be going on the Cali trip after all and could have been on cycle longer. Which pissed me off lol. But the amount of muscle I gained I'm proud of, it's defiantly sticking through pct so far.
Gonna hit back and bis tomorrow. Will be playing volleyball all afternoon today getting that cardio in!
Shrine
Active Member
At least youre keeping the gains. Will you start another cycle in a couple months?
Pypp
Active Member
I think ill wait for end of summer to run either EQ/prop or TrenAce/prop cycle. Maybe wait til winter ill post a picture of where I'm at in a week or so.
Even though I haven't been resting, drinking alcohol too often I still get compliments left and right on my physic. Really aiming to hit 5% by july
TEH253
Banned
I'm keeping my gains, strength is a little less but not a big deal, I'm still lean so overall I'm happy and say it was a good experience. My plan was to cycle and squat 315 but I rolled my ankle a week before so I couldn't squat, deadlift, and power clean which I'd admit it made me a little depressed that I couldn't while on cycle. I just touched rim today which felt hella bomb since its been a while haha.
Lukef2000
Well-known member
Tren ace and test prop FTW!!!
TEH253
Banned
Have you cycled tren before? If so let me know how it was.