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17 days post pct bloodwork. high estro?

atlninja82

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alright guys i have 2 sets of bloodwork. my first set of blood work was on my last day of my pct (tamoxifen). here are the levels
bloodwork #1
testosterone, serum- 1029 ng/dl (280-800)
free testosterone- 24.9 pg/ml (9.3-26.5 pg/ml)
LH- 18.0 (1.7-8.6)
FSH- 11.6 (1.5-12.4)
TSH- 1.630 (0.450-4.500)
Estrodial- 48.3 pg/ml (7.6-42.6)
prolactin- 9.3 ng/ml (4.0-15.2)
estrogens, total- 110 (40-115)

here is the bloodwork that i got done 17 days after i stopped tamoxifen. my estrogen isnt going down very much. is this something to be concerned about? is this from estrogen rebound?
bloodwork #2(post pct)

testosterone, serum- 730 ng/dl (280-800)
free testosterone- 18.3 pg/ml (9.3-26.5 pg/ml)
LH- 7.8 (1.7-8.6)
FSH- 5.5 (1.5-12.4)
Estrodial- 46.6 pg/ml (7.6-42.6)
prolactin- 10.9 ng/ml (4.0-15.2)

why is my estrogen still high? how does the bloodwork look? thanks yall

-eric
 
If I'm not mistaken, Fina 550 is a SD clone and a Tren clone. You should have definitely run a SERM for both cycles, probably to include clomid because of the Tren. While I'm sure revolution is a fine product, it's no where near enough for the Fina 550, plus only two months between cycles.
 
atlninja82 said:
alright guys i have 2 sets of bloodwork. my first set of blood work was on my last day of my pct (tamoxifen). here are the levels
bloodwork #1
testosterone, serum- 1029 ng/dl (280-800)
free testosterone- 24.9 pg/ml (9.3-26.5 pg/ml)
LH- 18.0 (1.7-8.6)
FSH- 11.6 (1.5-12.4)
TSH- 1.630 (0.450-4.500)
Estrodial- 48.3 pg/ml (7.6-42.6)
prolactin- 9.3 ng/ml (4.0-15.2)
estrogens, total- 110 (40-115)

here is the bloodwork that i got done 17 days after i stopped tamoxifen. my estrogen isnt going down very much. is this something to be concerned about? is this from estrogen rebound?
bloodwork #2(post pct)

testosterone, serum- 730 ng/dl (280-800)
free testosterone- 18.3 pg/ml (9.3-26.5 pg/ml)
LH- 7.8 (1.7-8.6)
FSH- 5.5 (1.5-12.4)
Estrodial- 46.6 pg/ml (7.6-42.6)
prolactin- 10.9 ng/ml (4.0-15.2)

why is my estrogen still high? how does the bloodwork look? thanks yall

-eric
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You don't give us your estrogen in the second set of bloodwork. Are you asking why your estroDIAL is still high? What IS your estrogen levels from the second test?
 
cheapest effective thing for reducing estrodiol is melatonin. As far as estrogen as a whole, you've got a ton of AI's to choose from. just make sure to taper off slowly so there's no rebound.
 
bound said:
cheapest effective thing for reducing estrodiol is melatonin. As far as estrogen as a whole, you've got a ton of AI's to choose from. just make sure to taper off slowly so there's no rebound.
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are you sure i should do this and i shouldnt just wait it out? and the high estrodial is whats causing the ED and libido issues right?
 
That's one I can't answer. You could try waiting it out and things could straighten themselves out. Depends on your body, everyone's reacts differently. things may not straighten out. At that point it may be a good idea to run some clomid to get things rolling, but your test is in the normal range, so likely not. Easiest thing would just be to run an AI for 4-6 weeks at a low dose, tapering down, and see how it goes, then make a decision from there. That's the best that I can tell you. Take a look around the forum, there's lots of threads with folks with similar issues, see what they're doing.
 
bound said:
That's one I can't answer. You could try waiting it out and things could straighten themselves out. Depends on your body, everyone's reacts differently. things may not straighten out. At that point it may be a good idea to run some clomid to get things rolling, but your test is in the normal range, so likely not. Easiest thing would just be to run an AI for 4-6 weeks at a low dose, tapering down, and see how it goes, then make a decision from there. That's the best that I can tell you. Take a look around the forum, there's lots of threads with folks with similar issues, see what they're doing.
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alright i appreciate it.
 
You could run an otc ai to keep estro in check, but remember when your test increases so does your estro proportionally....so some estro is good even tho right now it's slightly out of range but nothing too crazy.

As you can see from your first bloodwork your test was high but so what your estro, by the second bloodwork your test got lowered and your estro lowered as well.

Like bound said you can wait to see if you level out...I would wait another 4wks and then do another bloodwork to see if you have gone back to baseline/normalize and if you haven't, cross that bridge when you come to it, but my bet is that you will....no way to tell unless bloodwork is done later down the road.
 
atlninja82 said:
what do yall think about running an OTC AI?
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If I were you, I'd get a bottle of Sustain Alpha LV, and run that 5 days on, 2 days off until the bottle is gone. If you have the money, get Toco-8 as well.

I used Nolva 10/10/10/10 and PP's TRS (which includes Sustain Alpha) after my Hrol/Dermacrine cycle and I had no ED or libido issues. My PCT ended a few days ago and I'll get bloodwork done in about a month, but I did get tested 2 weeks into PCT, and my hormones were totally normal:
Test 720 (280-800)
LH 4.2 (1.7-8.6)
FSH 2.5 (1.5-12.4)
Estradiol 34.1 (7.6-42.6)

My liver values were sh*t, but that's a different story!
 
robxxxxxx69 said:
yes this is whats causing the libido issues
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yea i definitely think this is whats causing the libido issues. i dont have ED anymore. i can get it up. but its getting that normal rock solid erection that i dont have but i think its just because im not very aroused. so i think once my libido comes back ill be good to go. im contemplating on taking anything to lower my e2 levels for a couple reasons.

1. if i take an AI like arimidex or letro i risk getting rebound right? i definitely dont want that.

2. people have been saying to let my body normalize on its own. but at this rate it might be months till im back to normal

so i dont know what to do. what about i3c or DIM? could i just take it for a few weeks and be done with it?

thanks,
-eric
 
atlninja82 said:
yea i definitely think this is whats causing the libido issues. i dont have ED anymore. i can get it up. but its getting that normal rock solid erection that i dont have but i think its just because im not very aroused. so i think once my libido comes back ill be good to go. im contemplating on taking anything to lower my e2 levels for a couple reasons.

1. if i take an AI like arimidex or letro i risk getting rebound right? i definitely dont want that.

2. people have been saying to let my body normalize on its own. but at this rate it might be months till im back to normal

so i dont know what to do. what about i3c or DIM? could i just take it for a few weeks and be done with it?

thanks,
-eric
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are you getting morning woods? if u run arimidex just run nolva a few weeks after it
 
robxxxxxx69 said:
are you getting morning woods? if u run arimidex just run nolva a few weeks after it
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no im not. occasionally i will have them but for the most part no. and sometimes i wake up in the middle of the night with a wood and im horny as ****. i wish that would happen in the day time. i still get random boners here and there but still arent rock hard normal ones.
 
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