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11-oxo TD

AdelV

AdelV

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Who had this used transdermal?

I have 11-oxoderm, claims contains 450mg per serving.

I'm looking for suggestions on PCT? Serm required, or something like OL Super PCT?

Is 4 weeks good enough or better to save for 8 week cycle?

Thank you
 
you running this solo? its a very mild compound but I would still pct. Im not a big fan of OTC PCT's but im sure you can get away with using one. 11-oxo is usually never run alone its pretty mild.
 
Twice daily application at that dosage and transdermal delivery will be very effective. 900 mg transdermal is about same as oral 1800 mg. If you run that for 6 weeks you can loose 5-6 lbs body fat, gain 2-3 lbs muscle. Patrick Arnold the one who brought compound to the market said no pct.
 
dvw said:
Twice daily application at that dosage and transdermal delivery will be very effective. 900 mg transdermal is about same as oral 1800 mg. If you run that for 6 weeks you can loose 5-6 lbs body fat, gain 2-3 lbs muscle. Patrick Arnold the one who brought compound to the market said no pct.
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It would be run solo, but it's actually 1ml = 2 pumps a day = 450mg.

Double dose would be really expensive haha. I have read of good results tho.
 
900mg TD 11-oxo and no PCT? Beast....LOL. But eh, I guess it depends on the length you run it too. Good luck!
 
I ran thats dose for 30 days and used LGI rehab pct supplement and was ok.
 
ma70 said:
900mg TD 11-oxo and no PCT? Beast....LOL. But eh, I guess it depends on the length you run it too. Good luck!
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It's 450mg TD, tho their information states ita equal to 1200mg of oral 11-oxo.

I assume O/Labs Super PCT would be alright? I spose you could run low dose serm for 7 days just to kick start? :/
 
I would hold out for Olympus Labs' 11-KT product or go with Icon 11
 
Also, better safe than sorry on PCT. Nolva, 7keto DHEA, DAA and Alphamax XT are my standard PCT for this stuff...it is overkill and only needed at higher doses...but does that really matter?
 
AdelV said:
I already have 2 bottles tho, so it makes no difference.

I'll still probably buy OL's when it's released ��
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Cool - in that case, you should run a PCT (in my opinion) - so why don't you wait until you can get some Super-11 or 11-K Test, etc. and then do an 8 week or 12 week cycle? That way, one PCT will cover you.
 
HIT4ME said:
Also, better safe than sorry on PCT. Nolva, 7keto DHEA, DAA and Alphamax XT are my standard PCT for this stuff...it is overkill and only needed at higher doses...but does that really matter?
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There's a killer deal at nutriverse on alphamax+x gels for $65 using ALPHAGELS. amazing pct addition as it covers many bases that you need and the ara will keep you nice and full
 
Yup I have couple of pni 11oxo derm saved up myself

900mg application.. Def would suggest pct, don't care how mild it is
 
Not sure if the pump changed on PN's 11-OXO, they said it was. Mine was a pain to get right, lol.

I'd use an oral syringe to ensure proper dosing.
 
Misfit28 said:
Not sure if the pump changed on PN's 11-OXO, they said it was. Mine was a pain to get right, lol.

I'd use an oral syringe to ensure proper dosing.
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I was completely let down by their 11oxo
 
I am unsure. It was one of those "I don't know if this really works" supplement, then months later I'd look at pictures of me when I was on it and I was super slim due to it.
 
11-keto is far superior to 11-oxo...11-oxo is the pro hormone to 11-keto.

While you could take 11-keto orally, I would advise against it...it's not a cheap compound and the required oral dosage would likely make it more spendy than it is.
 
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AdelV do yourself a favor and wait till you have the funds together if that's the issue. Run it for 8weeks with proper dosing instead of doing a mild run on a mild compound, in the end you will save money. Plan every run out to avoid any issues. Just my opinion though.
 
delsolrob said:
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Recommended dose (that will actually produce results vs the crap they put on the bottles)?
 
Also - while I understand 11-KT has a systemic effect via its TD MOA, but does it have any amplified localized effects if used on the face or belly. Thanks
 
Whacked said:
Also - while I understand 11-KT has a systemic effect via its TD MOA, but does it have any amplified localized effects if used on the face or belly. Thanks
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most people use 1.5 - 2ml per day.

There is no localized effect with 11-keto.

The belly is usually a poor choice of application spots...chest, shoulders, inner bicep, upper back, neck are a few of my favorite application sites. But, the tops of the feet and behind the knees work well too.
 
delsolrob said:
most people use 1.5 - 2ml per day.

There is no localized effect with 11-keto.

The belly is usually a poor choice of application spots...chest, shoulders, inner bicep, upper back, neck are a few of my favorite application sites. But, the tops of the feet and behind the knees work well too.
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Rob - any joint soreness from the lowered cortisol?
Any lethargy or fatigue as well?
 
Whacked said:
Rob - any joint soreness from the lowered cortisol?
Any lethargy or fatigue as well?
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I've not had sides or issues with 11-keto. I've never had any issues with cortisol modulating compounds, but I'm just now trying Iron Legions Invictus and will be keeping my eyes peeled.
 
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