11-KT

mikeymike85

mikeymike85

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Hey bros- finishing up a run of Alpha Gainz 1 andro (10 weeks). Going to take 30-60 days off, but want to try this 11-KT to get rid of some last little "fat" I can't seem to shake.

Anyhow, question being- I see that Icon's site has Ultra Eleven-- but the site I normally go to (FlexIt), has a dropper bottle one that looks totally different than the one on Icon's site.

Is it the same product? The dropper bottle seems like a better deal? Cheers.
 
@delsolrob can confirm but the small dropper product is Icon 11, which is a previous version of 11-KT that he made. The concentration is different and Ultra Eleven may have androsterone too, I forget, but it's pretty much the same. I've used both and prefer the Icon 11 carrier.

You probably know this already but 11-KT is moderately suppressive and you should do a full PCT after 1 andro before starting it.
 
Icon 11 is same as Iron Legion XI-KT. Ulta Eleven does not contain Androsterone, only 11-KT, btw.
 
kira1357 said:
@delsolrob can confirm but the small dropper product is Icon 11, which is a previous version of 11-KT that he made. The concentration is different and Ultra Eleven may have androsterone too, I forget, but it's pretty much the same. I've used both and prefer the Icon 11 carrier.

You probably know this already but 11-KT is moderately suppressive and you should do a full PCT after 1 andro before starting it.
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Have you ran it before? Any good?
 
mikeymike85 said:
Have you ran it before? Any good?
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Yea I've lost count of how much of Rob's 11 keto I've run. The Icon 11 that flexit has or XI-KT are my preference over the Ultra 11, but any of them will be excellent for recomp and maintaining mass during a cut, and pretty much useless for bulking... so if your goals fit in with those, have at it
 
mikeymike85 said:
Appreciate you bro. So is 11-KT the best bet? lol. Curious about this
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It would come down to price vs amount of active ingredient and wich carrier you like better. Icon 11 or XI-KT would allow higher dosing, due to the form of the product requiring less application space. I had to split doses to AM + PM to do 5 pumps of Ultra Eleven, using upper body only. Iron Legion, Alpha Gainz and Iconic's dropper TD's I can easily apply 2-3 ml's at once.

If you meant 11-KT in general, then Kira gave a pretty good description above.
 
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kira1357 said:
Yea I've lost count of how much of Rob's 11 keto I've run. The Icon 11 that flexit has or XI-KT are my preference over the Ultra 11, but any of them will be excellent for recomp and maintaining mass during a cut, and pretty much useless for bulking... so if your goals fit in with those, have at it
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Niiiice, that's what I needed. TY Sir
 
Just wanted to update. Running 2-2.5ml of Icon11 - on week 3. Starting to lean out, honestly leaning out the same way I would on 60mg Var... quite shocked. Not really seeing any strength type gains, or nutrition partioning effects like I see on Var-- But I didn't run this for any of that, just wanted to see how it leans me out. So far I'm impressed.
 
mikeymike85 said:
Just wanted to update. Running 2-2.5ml of Icon11 - on week 3. Starting to lean out, honestly leaning out the same way I would on 60mg Var... quite shocked. Not really seeing any strength type gains, or nutrition partioning effects like I see on Var-- But I didn't run this for any of that, just wanted to see how it leans me out. So far I'm impressed.
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Wow. Has anyone had blood work done on this before? How suppressive it is, how hard it hits the lipids, etc.? I'm pretty sure I've used oral 11-OXO many years back and don't remember being that impressed.
 
mikeymike85 said:
Just wanted to update. Running 2-2.5ml of Icon11 - on week 3. Starting to lean out, honestly leaning out the same way I would on 60mg Var... quite shocked. Not really seeing any strength type gains, or nutrition partioning effects like I see on Var-- But I didn't run this for any of that, just wanted to see how it leans me out. So far I'm impressed.
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Great to hear it's working , and ya that's my experience too. I experimented one time and figured out that just adding 11keto burns an extra 700 calories a day for me, approximately. It's nuts lol, and I feel some aggressive side effects but they're minor compared to anything more anabolic. You probably won't see any strength gains but you probably won't lose any strength either on it even if you're in a steep cut. It's as androgenic mg per mg as test though so I usually add prostate and cardiovascular support supps too just in case
 
i never got much out of 11-kt myself, used 3 bottles of PA's prototype spray, 2 or 3 bottles of it in salvo also, and oral11-oxo back in around 2008 from the very 1st batch from ergopharm..to be honest the oral11-oxo did allow me to stay slightly more full than normal
 
mikeymike85 said:
Just wanted to update. Running 2-2.5ml of Icon11 - on week 3. Starting to lean out, honestly leaning out the same way I would on 60mg Var... quite shocked. Not really seeing any strength type gains, or nutrition partioning effects like I see on Var-- But I didn't run this for any of that, just wanted to see how it leans me out. So far I'm impressed.
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how is icon 11 applied?
 
johnny412 said:
how is icon 11 applied?
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we generally recommend applying 1ml to 2ml in the AM. recommended application sites are upper chest, shoulders, clavicle region, neck, upper back, inner arm.
 
mikeymike85 said:
Just wanted to update. Running 2-2.5ml of Icon11 - on week 3. Starting to lean out, honestly leaning out the same way I would on 60mg Var... quite shocked. Not really seeing any strength type gains, or nutrition partioning effects like I see on Var-- But I didn't run this for any of that, just wanted to see how it leans me out. So far I'm impressed.
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How did this run go Bro?
 
kira1357 said:
Yea I've lost count of how much of Rob's 11 keto I've run. The Icon 11 that flexit has or XI-KT are my preference over the Ultra 11, but any of them will be excellent for recomp and maintaining mass during a cut, and pretty much useless for bulking... so if your goals fit in with those, have at it
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what dose did u run and for how long? how was PCT from utra11
 
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