11 K Test Oral..Nutra-Innovations

Thanks, the reading label for this product looks promising but I just never know if it's truthful or hyped marketing
 
Plex78 said:
Thanks, the reading label for this product looks promising but I just never know if it's truthful or hyped marketing
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11kt has been around for a long time, it's a crowd favorite... With our tetrasorb delivery system you will not be disappointed...
 
Plex78 said:
Thanks, the reading label for this product looks promising but I just never know if it's truthful or hyped marketing
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hvactech said:
11kt has been around for a long time, it's a crowd favorite... With our tetrasorb delivery system you will not be disappointed...
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I understand where you are coming from, believe me. I have been fortunate enough to have tried some of the great PH before the ban and got stuck with some crap after the ban. Should have just bought yams and would have saved myself a lot of money. Even though I am a rep for Nutra, I purchased my 11kt transdermal, Epi Alpha and Monopump so I could give a fair and honest review. That is posted on both of my logs.

As a reps, we don't receive any type of monetary award for sales or for some crazy sales pitch to sell Nutra's products. hvactech and I are here to help with anything pertaining to this forum.

Pushing you to our products or having some sales gimmick will eventually push you and other people away. Try this, take that and follow with this may work for other companies; not Nutra. At the end of the day, if we are able to help you; even if that means you don't try Nutra's products, at least were able offer our assistance.

I have faith in NutraTeam for coming up with the product line, NutraChem for the science behind it and hvactech for his support and knowledge. This is a solid company hvactech and I wouldn't be repping for them if we didn't believe in them.

if you need anything else, just let us know
 
hvactech said:
11kt has been around for a long time, it's a crowd favorite... With our tetrasorb delivery system you will not be disappointed...
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I know typically 11-kt oral bio-availability has been poor (hence the TD route). What is the impact of the tetrasorb? On par with TD now in terms of efficacy?
 
cubs1987 said:
I know typically 11-kt oral bio-availability has been poor (hence the TD route). What is the impact of the tetrasorb? On par with TD now in terms of efficacy?
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TD is still superior, i ran our androsterone @ 200mg and felt the same as i did with others @ 350mg with no delivery system... plus some prefer caps over trans
 
cubs1987 said:
I know typically 11-kt oral bio-availability has been poor (hence the TD route). What is the impact of the tetrasorb? On par with TD now in terms of efficacy?
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NutraChem was experimenting with the doses before the release, saw impressive results. he might be able to comment as well
 
I've just ordered two bottles on nutra planet, may start a log, it will be two caps for eight weeks. What kind of pct do i need for that ? SERM as clomid ? Or can i use something like the new spartan nutrition PCT ?
 
DORIAN38 said:
I've just ordered two bottles on nutra planet, may start a log, it will be two caps for eight weeks. What kind of pct do i need for that ? SERM as clomid ? Or can i use something like the new spartan nutrition PCT ?
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thank you and yes, please log if you dont mind.

proper PCT good sir- if you choose Spartan, its a product that i have not used it. They are good guys with a good line, but you may want to double check with them, just to be safe or if you need to add anything. I dont know the whole profile.

We offer TestMAX + ArimaMax Serm would be extra if you have it on hand and feel you need it
 
cubs1987 said:
I know typically 11-kt oral bio-availability has been poor (hence the TD route). What is the impact of the tetrasorb? On par with TD now in terms of efficacy?
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Always thought TD was used because it was cheaper (11-kt capped is supposed to be mega expensive, so they say). I've seen on occasion where PA posts that oral even has its advantages in regards to its cortisol controlling effects, etc. Oral 11-oxo had to be dosed high because it was 11-oxo, not because it had poor bioavailability AFAIK.
 
ma70 said:
Always thought TD was used because it was cheaper (11-kt capped is supposed to be mega expensive, so they say). I've seen on occasion where PA posts that oral even has its advantages in regards to its cortisol controlling effects, etc. Oral 11-oxo had to be dosed high because it was 11-oxo, not because it had poor bioavailability AFAIK.
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also believe oral issue- tetra sorb has appeared to solve this issue
 
DORIAN38 said:
I've just ordered two bottles on nutra planet, may start a log, it will be two caps for eight weeks. What kind of pct do i need for that ? SERM as clomid ? Or can i use something like the new spartan nutrition PCT ?
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I am running the 11kt-spray and plan to use otc pct. I may throw in some clomid just for the boost in testosterone, not that I think it is necessary as pct for 11k test, just my opinion for what it's worth!!!
 
11oxo converts to 11keto, I think a perfect combo would be both, the skin absorbing the spray and the small intestine absorbing the oral..
 
smith_69 said:
also believe oral issue- tetra sorb has appeared to solve this issue
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Haha, what I was trying to say is I don't even think oral bioavailability was bad at all, but I think Tetrasorb may make it more effective anyway. It's exciting stuff. I think your company is the first to provide oral 11-kt (instead of 11-oxo), so it will be hard to gauge the effectiveness of everything (since most anecdote in the past was done with either oral 11-oxo or transdermal 11-kt, never the true equivalents).
 
ma70 said:
Haha, what I was trying to say is I don't even think oral bioavailability was bad at all, but I think Tetrasorb may make it more effective anyway. It's exciting stuff. I think your company is the first to provide oral 11-kt (instead of 11-oxo), so it will be hard to gauge the effectiveness of everything (since most anecdote in the past was done with either oral 11-oxo or transdermal 11-kt, never the true equivalents).
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well you said it better!

I do like Hvac's idea of using both, but remember hes a beast. might be time to go hvac mode
 
smith_69 said:
well you said it better!

I do like Hvac's idea of using both, but remember hes a beast. might be time to go hvac mode
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It probably might be better to use both. Via Patrick Arnold + coop, the skin can only absorb so much transdermal 11-kt, so if you want to megadose it, you're going to need to dose a huge amount of oral 11-kt, or dose oral AND transdermal 11-kt (which I believe is more cost effective due to the price of oral caps)
 
thebigt said:
I am running the 11kt-spray and plan to use otc pct. I may throw in some clomid just for the boost in testosterone, not that I think it is necessary as pct for 11k test, just my opinion for what it's worth!!!
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Thanks for sharing your thoughts on PCT. Do you have any posts about your experience with the TD version of 11kt you are using? Thanks!
 
Still have not received anything in the mail yet
 
Sparkss said:
Thanks for sharing your thoughts on PCT. Do you have any posts about your experience with the TD version of 11kt you are using? Thanks!
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mega cutting stack...that is my log.

I will say that the carrier is probably my favorite td carrier of all time. I love that it's a spray and dries very quickly...it hasn't left any skin irritation at application sites...it smells fantastic, i work outdoors and everyone keeps asking me 'when did you start wearing aftershave', lol...my wife really digs the scent, and that's what matters most!!!
 
Ag99 said:
Yeah, haven't gotten mine yet either...
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they are coming and apologies for the delay. but it will be worth it
 
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Look what I got today
 
rmanyou vujade EMPIREMIND chzcake01

Guys- it was brought to my attention and i am asking NutraChem and NutraTeam to confirm. the website shows this being 100 mg per cap, but rmanyou has a bottle showing 75 mg per cap. I am not sure if something change or their was a label issue. C&T can confirm.
 
You are correct. Back to thinking only 75mg active which would be short of the 100mg active I thought would be in each cap. Sure NutraChem will address.
 
Not to side track this but even with 75 and the tetra delivery still very good dose.
 
Same here. 100mg on the bottle.75mg metrix on the capsule.
 
mase1 said:
You are correct. Back to thinking only 75mg active which would be short of the 100mg active I thought would be in each cap. Sure NutraChem will address.
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Guys 75mg is the absorption matrix
The capsules list TetraSorb Delivery -75mg

There is 100mg 11-Keto per capsule


Every single Tetra capsule says 75mg to clarify the total amount of TetraSorb Delivery Matrix
 
NutraTeam said:
Guys 75mg is the absorption matrix
The capsules list TetraSorb Delivery -75mg

There is 100mg 11-Keto per capsule


Every single Tetra capsule says 75mg to clarify the total amount of TetraSorb Delivery Matrix
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Thanks for clarifying this for us...
 
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