1-dhea vs s-23

I wouldn't compare Ostarine and Rad-140 on the same field. Rad and S23 are both on the same playing field in terms of strength of the chemical itself
 
Osta is almost useless in my opinion, lgd is good at 15-20mg what's your take on s23 vs lgd at higher doses
 
Something like a winstrol in terms of strength but more size. It's definitely not side effect friendly in relevance to other "sarms", but it's no more worse than the old designers.
 
shayan said:
What sides did u get from s23? Hair loss, acne? Water retention?
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No, no, and nope!

It was dry, and hair loss is genetic!!! People need to understand this, yes DHT based compounds will be even worse on the hairline, but if you're not proned then don't worry about it
 
I loved S23. I had great energy and strength the entire time. The muscle hardness was also ridiculous. Just felt like straight boulders under my skin. Set lots of PR's on the S23.

Definitely isn't liver friendly, so make sure you're taking plenty of TUDCA with it.

I think I"ll do another S23 run sometime in the future for sure.
 
netflixNchill said:
No, no, and nope!

It was dry, and hair loss is genetic!!! People need to understand this, yes DHT based compounds will be even worse on the hairline, but if you're not proned then don't worry about it
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The whole point of ****ing sarms is not to make it worse! We all know that it’s genetics but if i want hair loss i’d use tren not waste time on sarms
 
now let me rephrase my question. Did anyone of you that is already prone to genetic androgenic alopecia (sensitivity of hair follicles to gradually miniaturize from ar binding) lose hair on s23? thanks.
 
shayan said:
now let me rephrase my question. Did anyone of you that is already prone to genetic androgenic alopecia (sensitivity of hair follicles to gradually miniaturize from ar binding) lose hair on s23? thanks.
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I've read about 4 logs on this and thus far I haven't seen anyone report any shedding. I'm not prone to it, so with that in mind, I guess I can't accurately give you an answer while I researched S23. All I can say is my test subject did not notice any shedding whatsoever. Definitely no water retention, very dry compound. Acne I only tend to get if my estrogen gets too low which wasn't a concern with the S23 of course.

I think the biggest concern with this SARM is its effects on the liver.
 
1-dhea = 1andro?
If so then I massively disagree with ostarine being stronger than 1 dhea.
1 andro is a great compound that at the right dose can make strength and size gains that blow away ostarine.
 
Cgkone said:
1-dhea = 1andro?
If so then I massively disagree with ostarine being stronger than 1 dhea.
1 andro is a great compound that at the right dose can make strength and size gains that blow away ostarine.
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The original was 10x stronger
 
shayan said:
now let me rephrase my question. Did anyone of you that is already prone to genetic androgenic alopecia (sensitivity of hair follicles to gradually miniaturize from ar binding) lose hair on s23? thanks.
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Scratch that, this guy just updated his log and said he dropped it due to shedding: Invalid Link Removed
 
I've ran a few cycles and s23 is the only thing I've experienced shedding with. Maybe yalls s23 was better than mine but I wasn't the biggest fan.
 
I liked s4 a lot
I ran it on a cruise and was hard and strong
Been very tempted by S23
Besides suppression it should be mild
 
Supraboy said:
I've ran a few cycles and s23 is the only thing I've experienced shedding with. Maybe yalls s23 was better than mine but I wasn't the biggest fan.
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Didn't you use PRE's S23? Anywho...just shows you how these things treat people differently. All my compound lifts went up, set numerous PRs, leaned out, no shedding, etc... I personally was a big fan of it, but could definitely tell it got the liver pretty good and would strongly advise running a minimum 500mg of TUDCA along with 1g of NAC.
 
Supraboy said:
I've ran a few cycles and s23 is the only thing I've experienced shedding with. Maybe yalls s23 was better than mine but I wasn't the biggest fan.
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what dose did you use? which brand? which week did u notice it hit u? are you sure it caused excessive hair loss or was it maybe natural shedding? Oh and did you use it as a standalone or added something to it?
 
Cgkone said:
So its liver toxic?
Does that make it the only Sarm that is rough on the liver?
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I'd have to go searching for it, but I think I've seen an article that says ostarine is more harsh on the liver than people think. Overall not the miracle harmless SARM they tout it to be, but I could be wrong.

I had bloods done right after and my doctor called and said my liver enzymes looked fine, but where was one of the measurements that I noticed had taken a hit. Guess it wasn't important enough for the doctor to say anything, but you'll definitely notice some darkened urine with it especially if you don't have adequate liver support.
 
I ran it at 20mg, brand was lra. I noticed improved vascularity on week 2 but that was it. I shed a decent amount normally but it was definitely increased from what i usually see. I just ran it with my trt dose, 125mg per week.
 
Supraboy said:
I ran it at 20mg, brand was lra. I noticed improved vascularity on week 2 but that was it. I shed a decent amount normally but it was definitely increased from what i usually see. I just ran it with my trt dose, 125mg per week.
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saw ur thread u used eq and test (super physiological lvls) u can’t conclude it’s the s23 unless u use it solo.
 
Thats true, I used eq for about 2 weeks into the s23 cycle. But I had ran the eq and test for 15 weeks prior and did not have any additional hair shedding. If theres one side effect I've seen from at least 75% of the people that run s23 it's hair shedding.
 
Supraboy said:
Thats true, I used eq for about 2 weeks into the s23 cycle. But I had ran the eq and test for 15 weeks prior and did not have any additional hair shedding. If theres one side effect I've seen from at least 75% of the people that run s23 it's hair shedding.
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lol and here I was saying I saw a bunch of logs and hadn't seen anyone mention shedding until yours. ::shrugs:: oh well. It's still a really new compound so lots to learn from it.
 
Yeah theres a facebook group im on and most of the people that had used it report some amount shedding. Your right, it is new though and there isnt much info on it. I'm not even confident that most people are even getting true s23 lol
 
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