1 andro

larkham

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Hi all,

I have a bottle of Sup3r-1 left.
Are there any issues in mixing that along with Mandro?

Sup3r-1
3b-hydroxy-5a-androst-1-en-17-one: 110mg

Mandro
1deydroepiandrosterone

I understand both are effectively 1 andro but the label/chemical name seems different.

Any advice would be great!
 
Should be good to go...I ran sup3r-1, with a mix of 1 andro from hi tech and Sparta nutrition, (just sayin)

Dose it as high as you can afford for 8 weeks,...have serm and on cycle supports before you start
 
They are the same thing, mixing should be fine. Adding a test base is allways a good thing to do with the 1-andro. -> 4-andro, Dermacrine, Epiandro or dhea (or test obviously).
 
Thanks for he replies gents.
Yep, stacking with 4 andro. 330mg each.

Epi andro on hand if required - tempted to save this for next time though.

SERM on hand but only nolva.
 
One follow up question,
Is it safe to occasionally take NSAIDs during cycle?

Although andros aren’t taxing on the liver, I assume it’s still wise not to take acetaminophen?
 
larkham said:
One follow up question,
Is it safe to occasionally take NSAIDs during cycle?

Although andros aren’t taxing on the liver, I assume it’s still wise not to take acetaminophen?
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advil would be better choice...only when needed.
 
larkham said:
Thanks for he replies gents.
Yep, stacking with 4 andro. 330mg each.

Epi andro on hand if required - tempted to save this for next time though.

SERM on hand but only nolva.
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larkham said:
One follow up question,
Is it safe to occasionally take NSAIDs during cycle?

Although andros aren’t taxing on the liver, I assume it’s still wise not to take acetaminophen?
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Nolva is fine.

Even though andros are not methylated they do get processed through the liver, so some strain will be inflicted. 1-andro can also spike blood pressure a bit for some users. So on cycle support is recommended. CEL Cycle assist is a solid one for example.
 
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Whisky said:
i recall about 3-4 days and that was around the end of week 1 I think. I added some blood pressure supps which helped
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Thank you. I’m struggling with them - really badly and don’t want to rely on Advil too much.
Im in 2 minds, if I back out now I could get away with a natty booster but if the headaches keep up past the 1 week mark and I stop, I assume I’d need a low dose PCT with a serm?
 
larkham said:
Thank you. I’m struggling with them - really badly and don’t want to rely on Advil too much.
Im in 2 minds, if I back out now I could get away with a natty booster but if the headaches keep up past the 1 week mark and I stop, I assume I’d need a low dose PCT with a serm?
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I was about to suggest ibuprofen, but with quick Googling I saw that Advil is ibuprofen. Anyway I think you could try to get past the few days of headache with the Advil, but if the headaches persist maybe you just have to call it quits.

Are you using any suppport supps to help with blood pressure? Or have you measured your bp?

I'm not too versed on the pct issue you described, but usually the longer/hasher the cycle the longer the pct, so maybe after only 2 weeks of 1-andro you could do a 2 week pct with Nolva like 20/10. Is there a reason you would like to avoid the Nolva, since you asked about the use of natty booster?
 
KvanH said:
I was about to suggest ibuprofen, but with quick Googling I saw that Advil is ibuprofen. Anyway I think you could try to get past the few days of headache with the Advil, but if the headaches persist maybe you just have to call it quits.

Are you using any suppport supps to help with blood pressure? Or have you measured your bp?

I'm not too versed on the pct issue you described, but usually the longer/hasher the cycle the longer the pct, so maybe after only 2 weeks of 1-andro you could do a 2 week pct with Nolva like 20/10. Is there a reason you would like to avoid the Nolva, since you asked about the use of natty booster?
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Thank you for your response, good to have good advice on here.
I’m using blackstones cycle support.
My blood pressure is slightly elevated currently at 124/79 and on average normal during my headaches.

Sorry to clarify, I meant if I were to stop my cycle before the 1 week mark, I could probably get away without running a SERM for PCT and run a natty booster - I assume I haven’t been shut down too much, if at all?
Although if I do continue and decide to stop at the 2 week mark, I’d probably need to run a SERM as mentioned at 20/10.
Do you think 10/10 be too low for such a mild cycle and shorter time?
 
larkham said:
Thank you for your response, good to have good advice on here.
I’m using blackstones cycle support.
My blood pressure is slightly elevated currently at 124/79 and on average normal during my headaches.

Sorry to clarify, I meant if I were to stop my cycle before the 1 week mark, I could probably get away without running a SERM for PCT and run a natty booster - I assume I haven’t been shut down too much, if at all?
Although if I do continue and decide to stop at the 2 week mark, I’d probably need to run a SERM as mentioned at 20/10.
Do you think 10/10 be too low for such a mild cycle and shorter time?
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That is not a bad reading of bp at all. I just checked the bp reference values in my country and by those values your systolic pressure is in normal range and diastolic pressure in ideal range. I measured mine 2 days ago and had 125/59 if I remember correctly and I have not cycled anything in over 2 months, for what it's worth.

Like I said I'm not too versed on the pct issue here when cutting the cycle short. I just feel like if you were going to run a ph run for several weeks followed by a 4 week serm pct, then why not be safe and use a serm no matter how short your cycle was. I have seen people telling they have been supressed on 1-andro after only a week of use.

20 mg is the standard Nolva dosing so I would at least start with that.
 
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larkham said:
Thank you for your response, good to have good advice on here.
I’m using blackstones cycle support.
My blood pressure is slightly elevated currently at 124/79 and on average normal during my headaches.

Sorry to clarify, I meant if I were to stop my cycle before the 1 week mark, I could probably get away without running a SERM for PCT and run a natty booster - I assume I haven’t been shut down too much, if at all?
Although if I do continue and decide to stop at the 2 week mark, I’d probably need to run a SERM as mentioned at 20/10.
Do you think 10/10 be too low for such a mild cycle and shorter time?
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your bp isn’t an issue based on that reading. 1-andro was my first cycle years ago but I very much recall the headaches in the first week ish. They definitely passed with 3-4 days though.
I didn’t have a cuff monitor back then but took Hawthorne Berry and that seemed to help (or coincidentally they went roughly the same time I took it)...,,,
 
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