Unanswered 1-Andro Cycle Layout

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Hello, I would appreciate feedback on this planned first cycle layout. Apologies for the long post. Trying to be thorough.

Background info:
31years old, 5-10” @ 190lb, reasonably lean 12-13% ish. 13years training experience. No previous anabolic use. I believe I’ve hit my natural limit as I’ve been the same weight for 5+years, despite multiple weight gain / cut attempts. Always end up back around the same place.

Goal:
Utilize this cycle to make some lean gains, hopefully pushing me over and above my natural potential. Will assure caloric surplus throughout cycle.

Cycle:
Weeks 1 - 8:
-Chaos & Pain chemical one (1-Andro) dosed @ 3 tabs per day, totaling 330mg/day. Like the study (Prohormone supplement 3-hydroxy-5-androst-1-en-17-one enhances resistance training gains but impairs user health)
-CEL Cycle Assist, dosed per label throughout the entire time using 1-Andro

PCT:
Weeks 9-12:
Nolvadex(Tamoxifen Citrate) dosed @ 20/20/10/10.

Extras:
-Aromasin (Exemestane) on hand in case of estro sides, although from what I’ve read, 1-Andro should not aromatize.
-Chaos & Pain Alpha PCT: I have this lying around, suggestions on how to implement it into this cycle? if it could provide any benefit.

Thanks and much appreciated.
 

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Hello, I would appreciate feedback on this planned first cycle layout. Apologies for the long post. Trying to be thorough.

Background info:
31years old, 5-10” @ 190lb, reasonably lean 12-13% ish. 13years training experience. No previous anabolic use. I believe I’ve hit my natural limit as I’ve been the same weight for 5+years, despite multiple weight gain / cut attempts. Always end up back around the same place.

Goal:
Utilize this cycle to make some lean gains, hopefully pushing me over and above my natural potential. Will assure caloric surplus throughout cycle.

Cycle:
Weeks 1 - 8:
-Chaos & Pain chemical one (1-Andro) dosed @ 3 tabs per day, totaling 330mg/day. Like the study (Prohormone supplement 3-hydroxy-5-androst-1-en-17-one enhances resistance training gains but impairs user health)
-CEL Cycle Assist, dosed per label throughout the entire time using 1-Andro

PCT:
Weeks 9-12:
Nolvadex(Tamoxifen Citrate) dosed @ 20/20/10/10.

Extras:
-Aromasin (Exemestane) on hand in case of estro sides, although from what I’ve read, 1-Andro should not aromatize.
-Chaos & Pain Alpha PCT: I have this lying around, suggestions on how to implement it into this cycle? if it could provide any benefit.

Thanks and much appreciated.
Run 500mg epiandro or Androsterone at 250mg daily to combat lethargy from 1 dhea
 
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Chemical one at 3 pills a day for 8 weeks gives some great gains. Loved that cycle
But I also added a 4 andro too it like chemical 4 to combat the lethargy and add a slightly more lean mass

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I’m running an EpiAndro and 1 andro combo right now, I’m just over two weeks and I’m just now seeing a slight something....So be patient (ha that’s what I’m trying to do) All these bros are on the money with the “kick in time” ...I might extend this 10 weeks, because the way I’m seeing it now, I’m only gonna have a good 4 weeks when this thing gets going...
 

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So in general, beside adding epiAndro, the cycle looks good?

Any comments on what to do with the Alpha PCT?
 

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Yeah as above bro, layout is good, you’ve clearly done your research which is nice to see.

1 Andro was my first cycle along with 4-andro and epiandro. Nice combination. 1-andro will give you lethargy and I’d personally add at least one of the others to combat that. You have asin on hand (and estrogen isn’t actually a bad thing as long as it’s not causing gyno) so you’d be fine with something that does amoratize.
 

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I’m running an EpiAndro and 1 andro combo right now, I’m just over two weeks and I’m just now seeing a slight something....So be patient (ha that’s what I’m trying to do) All these bros are on the money with the “kick in time” ...I might extend this 10 weeks, because the way I’m seeing it now, I’m only gonna have a good 4 weeks when this thing gets going...
You logging this? If so, you have a link to it so I can follow along?
 
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You logging this? If so, you have a link to it so I can follow along?
Haven’t yet,...just nothin spectacular yet (3 weeks in, kind of a letdown so far) maybe the next 4 weeks. Better pump in the gym that’s all I’m getting...But that could be from more carbs...
 
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Need a good test base. Look at 4ad or dermacrine.

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Thanks for the input guys. You’re helping me expand my knowledge immensely. Pardon my ignorance with the below question.

Just so I understand, the lethargy associated with 1-Andro is caused by the lack of a testosterone base in my system? specifically when my endogenous test becomes shutdown from the oral hormone. Hence the recommendation to add an exogenous test base.

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Bump.

Also having issues locating RCs from a reputable source. Recommendations? Looking for Aromasin & Nolvadex.
 
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Bump.

Also having issues locating RCs from a reputable source. Recommendations? Looking for Aromasin & Nolvadex.
Board Sponsors, just pick one and run with it. I did the same for my andro cycle. IMO the aromasin is good to have on hand, but doubt you’ll need it. I grabbed some in case, and have yet to touch it as I’m 3 weeks into 1-andro, 4-andro, 3AD, and now added Stano-Plex (600 mg Epiandro).
 
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Good stuff, as I was told “better to have and not need, than to need and not have”
 
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Board Sponsors, just pick one and run with it. I did the same for my andro cycle. IMO the aromasin is good to have on hand, but doubt you’ll need it. I grabbed some in case, and have yet to touch it as I’m 3 weeks into 1-andro, 4-andro, 3AD, and now added Stano-Plex (600 mg Epiandro).
Do you feel it’s ‘kicked in’ ?
 
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Do you feel it’s ‘kicked in’ ?
Yes, so far it’s been a muscle hardening effect with a better mood and will to workout (placebo?). I’m also down an average of 8 lbs, and need to recheck body fat % since I started
 
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Do you feel it’s ‘kicked in’ ?
Yes, so far it’s been a muscle hardening effect with a better mood and will to workout (placebo?). I’m also down an average of 8 lbs, and need to recheck body fat % since I started
 

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