1-andro and epi-andro
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vujade
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1 andro @ 330 to 440mg per day should yield a nice 8 to 10 lbs of lean muscle in 8 weeks
as long as diet and training are dialed in.
Epi Andro won't really help with actual muscle gains, but will help harden you up, keep your
libido & energy levels up, and make you stronger.
as long as diet and training are dialed in.
Epi Andro won't really help with actual muscle gains, but will help harden you up, keep your
libido & energy levels up, and make you stronger.
LeanEngineer
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This. And I would still run a full 4 week pct with nolva at 20/20/10/10 and use the tb a long side it.
Brandinooooo
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That depends on your training program and diet. If everything is on point, then yes. You should gain 10ish pounds while staying lean or maybe even dropping a percent.
Brandinooooo
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That's a low dose of the epi. 500 is usually minimum.
irishiron300
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Brandinooooo
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Its what we're here for. Feel free to ask any and all questions you have.
Choppedjunior
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will Epiandro have same results as Epistane? i ran that and lost like 3%bf and gained 5lbs. I had really great results, i think.
Smont
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Choppedjunior
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PeaceMAC
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I'm running 1&4 at 220mg while trying to bulk. Am I under dosing?
Smont
Legend
Acts more as a test base, good for a little strength and agression. Not so great solodamn. whats the benefits then? its still easily available and will help cut a bit?
Brandinooooo
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Epiandro and epistane are two totally different things.
If you ran it solo at 1000, it would increase strength, energy, libido and harden you up quite a bit.
Yeah you are underdosing. 300+ minimum for each. 500 minimum for epiandro.
PeaceMAC
New member
Thanks brother I think you've helped me like 20 times now lol. I'll just up to 330 each and play from there
Choppedjunior
Member
ah so would the 1-andro be the compound that would help cut bf and get some lean dry gains?
Brandinooooo
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Haha its cool man. Just leave it at 330. No need to move it around. Just increase it next run if you want to go higher.
Yeah.
Brandinooooo
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Same look as off cycle.
Choppedjunior
Member
I would just save the creatine your muscles are already holding a lot of water on cycle, no point of pulling more water in with creatine, with the excess water hold could result in higher BP and may or may not cause some side effects.
vujade
Well-known member
yes
JPARKS42
Member
I've never run a ph/aas cycle but have been really looking into it. I have had some gyno issues before, plenty of blood tests, mammograms etc and they are not sure of the cause and prescribed me tamoxifen saying they are not worried, the small lump just bothers me as it looks like a chubby kid nipple. It is my understanding that with proper on cycle therapy and pct this stack should be one of my safer bets to avoid more issues and still see some nice lean gains and hardening.
Big fan of OL and they have their stack3d sale going on right now so was going to go
Sup3r-1 elite 330 @ 8 weeks
Sup3r Epi Elite 1000 @ 8 weeks
Arimacare pro
Kingsguard
Then super pct or kingsblood
Will have 10mg tamoxifen on hand approximately 35 tabs or so.
Any input greatly appreciated, I'm still doing my research and trying to determine if I want to go this route or stay natty. If it werent for the small lump issues I've already had this would be a no brainer.
27 years old. Plenty of lifting experience. 5'8 195lbs @ 12% my
Diet is fairly on point. Carbs at about 150/day right now as I'm trying to cut.
Protein 225-275/day.
Any input greatly appreciated and feel free to inbox me as well.
Big fan of OL and they have their stack3d sale going on right now so was going to go
Sup3r-1 elite 330 @ 8 weeks
Sup3r Epi Elite 1000 @ 8 weeks
Arimacare pro
Kingsguard
Then super pct or kingsblood
Will have 10mg tamoxifen on hand approximately 35 tabs or so.
Any input greatly appreciated, I'm still doing my research and trying to determine if I want to go this route or stay natty. If it werent for the small lump issues I've already had this would be a no brainer.
27 years old. Plenty of lifting experience. 5'8 195lbs @ 12% my
Diet is fairly on point. Carbs at about 150/day right now as I'm trying to cut.
Protein 225-275/day.
Any input greatly appreciated and feel free to inbox me as well.
Choppedjunior
Member
so is this stack probably the way to go for cutting?
Smont
Legend
Your diet is the way to go for cutting. Can these help? A little. Tren, Winny, clen, t3, those are cutting drugs but outside those it's diet n cardio
Choppedjunior
Member
You're correct I worded it incorrectly, meant lean very dry gains. Ive run Epistane before and having difficulty finding again, so was looking at alternatives.