1-andro/4-andro stack

BoxingFreak

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Due to the ban in 2014
I am seeking to do the only legal PH stack, worth doing, or so I am told. 1-andro, 4-andro stack with life support throughout the 6 week cycle and pct. Using a good SERM pct as well as Super T as my test
Booster.
So let me know what dose/ brand you guys have tried and/or used. Haven't ran a cycle or anything before, so will this benefit me more than veteran PH users? Because I am stacking the 1 and 4 together what doses should I run playas???? I only want to do the legal route! Also, why is andro-1 and andro-4 still legal? Enlighten me my brothas!
 
Best deal on both 1-Andro and 4-Andro is Hard Rock Supplements (Super Mandro and Andro the Giant). IronMag Labs puts out the product too, but I don't see why people would pay that much. There are some liquid versions too.

Here's a study conducted on guys taking 1-Andro for 330 mg/day for 4 weeks: jap.physiology.org/content/jap/116/5/560.full.pdf

4-Andro can possibly aromatise, so you should have an AI on hand (like Exemestane) in case you get high estrogen effects. The AI is good for the end of your PCT too (like the last week of your SERM and one or two after). Might want to get a DHT blocking shampoo (like Pura D'or) if you're worried about DHT making your hair shed.

Full disclosure: I haven't run either compound, but have been researching them for a while for a planned cycle in the winter
 
Very informative. Thank you. Do you think running 1-andro alone, sounds like a good idea to start? And do i still need the AI and shampoo with just andro-1 ? Not looking for crazy crazy results.
 
BoxingFreak said:
Very informative. Thank you. Do you think running 1-andro alone, sounds like a good idea to start? And do i still need the AI and shampoo with just andro-1 ? Not looking for crazy crazy results.
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The guys in the study experienced good results from just 1-Andro and Bergamottin (both included in Super Mandro and IronMag Labs 1-Andro), but the common consensus is that 1-Andro will cause natural testosterone production shutdown, which is why 4-Andro is recommended with it (since it can convert to Test). But, then you have the possible aromatization. Some people say 1-Andro doesn't increase DHT, but some say it does (patrickarnoldblog.com/1-androsterone-in-the-journal-%E2%80%9Csteroids%E2%80%9D/). You don't need the DHT-blocking shampoo, I'm just a bit paranoid. I'd definitely get an AI though
 
Paranoid is good. Very good. I will be getting AI AND shampoo. I'm going to run both. I mine as well get it in while it's still legal. Any Recommendation on AI?
 
BoxingFreak said:
Paranoid is good. Very good. I will be getting AI AND shampoo. I'm going to run both. I mine as well get it in while it's still legal. Any Recommendation on AI?
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Exemestane. No rebound once you cease taking it. Just make sure to google it and read up on your own.
 
I'm all for legal phs only myself. I'm running 1andro/4andro/epiandro stacked together. How well it will work I'm not sure yet but I'll knw in a few weeks
 
No problem, and good luck with your cycle. There are some good 1-Andro logs going on here--worth checking out too
 
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