1 Andro, 4 Andro and 19 Nor Dhea Stack

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Pretty much ready to go on a 1 andro, 4 andro stack for 6 weeks made up of:
Super Mandro 330mg
Fusion Androtest 4-AD (1 step conversion) 375 mg

I also have some OL Sup3r-19 Nor Dhea and considering adding it in at 220mg. Thoughts on sides/worthwhile addition etc??

Will be using OL Arm1care Pro (Old Version) and Clomid for PCT.
 
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you could always through in an on cycle product like cel cycle assist and/or a natty test booster in your pct.
 

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you could always through in an on cycle product like cel cycle assist and/or a natty test booster in your pct.
Apologies i meant Arm1care Pro as on cycle support but yeah will probably give ultra test another go in PCT with clomid.

So you think adding the 19 Nor Dhea would be okay for this stack??
 
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Apologies i meant Arm1care Pro as on cycle support but yeah will probably give ultra test another go in PCT with clomid.

So you think adding the 19 Nor Dhea would be okay for this stack??
Yep that was my second cycle as I recall (1/4/19 for 6-8 weeks). You should be able to put on 5-10lbs at a similar bf, or more if you respond wildly or are fattening up.
 

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Yep that was my second cycle as I recall (1/4/19 for 6-8 weeks). You should be able to put on 5-10lbs at a similar bf, or more if you respond wildly or are fattening up.
Sounds great. Will be looking at a lean bulk so fingers crossed. I chose this over Osta and also a lgd/mk677 cycle (still in cuboard) so hopefully the andros are good with low sides.

Also probably going to bump up the 4-AD to around 425 mg.
 
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Yep that was my second cycle as I recall (1/4/19 for 6-8 weeks). You should be able to put on 5-10lbs at a similar bf, or more if you respond wildly or are fattening up.
I put on quite a bit in 8 weeks on 1 and 4 andros but I already knew I’m a hyper responder to delta-1 steroids. And I did fatten up a little in some spots (visceral) and leaned in others (sub q). The 4 andro I could have not used and gotten same results, I’m 99%sure.

19-nor andro should be ok though. I didn’t use that one, because 19-nor.
 
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Supposedly oral 1-dhea is mg for mg as strong as test prop. Which is tooooootally untrue. But that’s what they say. It is strong enough to give effects, though. Like a very light dose of 1-ad, roughly half the dose of 1-andro. So if you were a guy taking 1-ad at a gram a day back in the day, then 1-andro at 2 grams a day would be what you want.

For andros I recommend taking at least 660 mg of each per day minimum for decent effects.
 
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I put on quite a bit in 8 weeks on 1 and 4 andros but I already knew I’m a hyper responder to delta-1 steroids. And I did fatten up a little in some spots (visceral) and leaned in others (sub q). The 4 andro I could have not used and gotten same results, I’m 99%sure.

19-nor andro should be ok though. I didn’t use that one, because 19-nor.
What don’t ya like about 19-nor,...Curious, Thanks
 
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What don’t ya like about 19-nor,...Curious, Thanks
They’re neurotoxic and toxic to the Sertoli cells (test isn’t) and carditoxic moreso than testosterone. Only the selectivized ones would be ok. And trest, which is a selectivized 19nor is still toxic to the sertoli cells.
 
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I must admit, NPP is a guilty pleasure. I have used it and plan to use it again. I have used 19nors in the past when I was not informed about the non hormonal dangers of them.
 
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I just don’t think 19 nor dhea would be worth it for me. I’d rather try trest.
 

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I just don’t think 19 nor dhea would be worth it for me. I’d rather try trest.
Great advice thanks i appreciate it. Is it best to take the andros on an empty stomach or with heathly fats??
 
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Healthy is debatable when it comes to fats. Take it with a spoonful of coconut oil or a glass of whole milk. Or a spoonful of coconut oil in a glass of whole milk, shaken, maybe with some kind of flavoring agent. Gatorade powder, or chocolate powder if you’re normal.
 
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Healthy is debatable when it comes to fats. Take it with a spoonful of coconut oil or a glass of whole milk. Or a spoonful of coconut oil in a glass of whole milk, shaken, maybe with some kind of flavoring agent. Gatorade powder, or chocolate powder if you’re normal.
I was just mirroring the better of the 2 choices he listed, but you’re right - any fat will suffice. You could take them preWO with a tbsp of pb and some carbs, take them with a meal with meat or eggs, take them with a few grams of fish oil, doesn’t matter.
 

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I was just mirroring the better of the 2 choices he listed, but you’re right - any fat will suffice. You could take them preWO with a tbsp of pb and some carbs, take them with a meal with meat or eggs, take them with a few grams of fish oil, doesn’t matter.
Thanks that helps a lot.

Am due to start cycle in the morning but having a last minute 2nd thought about swapping the 1 Andro for Halodrol.....would Halodrol be better than the 1 Andro with 4 AD??
 

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