1 ad vs 1 andro

RatnikK

RatnikK

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Hey guys iam curios wich product is better and has less side effects between these 2 , I might do one PH cycle and the continue on naturally after just wanna do some research before taking that step forward.
 
1AD is 1-Androstenediol which was a one step prohormone that converted directly into 1-Testosterone... Its very very hard to find as it was banned in the US. 1-Andro is 1-Dhea or 1-androsterone and it is a 2 step prohormone that converts first into 1-Androstenediol then to 1-Testosterone. This is completely legal and is what todays 1Andro products are although not nearly as effective as original 1-ad.
 
mjdel05 said:
99 percent sure that's the same thing.....
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Nope. 1AD is a prohormone created by Patrick Arnold. It's the ph to 1Test. 1 Andro is DHEA....Supposedly it converts to 1 Test through a 2 step process but I wouldn't use it. To call 1AD and 1-Dhea the same thing is an absolute joke. Might as well call a Lamborghini and Chevy Chevette the same thing because they are both cars.
 
RatnikK said:
So 1 andro has less side effects but less gain aswell ?
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Two-step conversion versus one-step. The total conversion to 1-test isn't very high I believe. But you're benefiting a lot from the first conversion step, 1-androstenediol.

If you think about it logically, it's the difference between taking 1-test itself, versus taking something that goes through a process to convert to 1-test; it won't be as effective. But it won't be useless, either.
 
T-Bone said:
Nope. 1AD is a prohormone created by Patrick Arnold. It's the ph to 1Test. 1 Andro is DHEA....Supposedly it converts to 1 Test through a 2 step process but I wouldn't use it. To call 1AD and 1-Dhea the same thing is an absolute joke. Might as well call a Lamborghini and Chevy Chevette the same thing because they are both cars.
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Wouldn't there be benefit in its conversion to 1-AD, though?
 
Aaron.Cole said:
Wouldn't there be benefit in its conversion to 1-AD, though?
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Sure I guess. However how much is really actually converting to 1AD?. I don't believe anyone knows this and with DHEA it can convert to so many other things....If you read up on DHEA a lot of people say it's unpredictable in this way. The only thing people can and do do is take an ass load of it and hope for the best....Which just makes it more expensive. Just my opinion here.
 
Let's say I decide to stack 1 andro and 4 andro plus pct for 6 weeks at a low dose , (this would be my first PH cycle) , realistically how much could I gain on this cycle and how severe are the side effects and is it possible to keep all my gains after cycle?
 
Age and stats?

And you probably won't stop at 1 but good luck lol. You can expect 8-10lbs with a well doses 1&4 Andro product. About to run super1 &4 from OL in a couple months myself.
 
Iam 30 , weight is around. 170 and height 5'6 . Body fat around 22-24% . How likely are side effects to happen on this cycle and how severe?
 
Higher body fat the higher chance of elevated BP and other health concerns. Plus wouldn't you want to be semi lean to actually notice muscle increase
 
I was planning on bulking naturally anyways I just had a few question about 1 andro and 1 ad to see wich gives better results and all the side effects in case I am not satisfied with my natural bulk results , I will most likely do one cycle. As for my cut, cardarine gw 50156 looks like a promising drug in mainting muscle while in a deficit and also adding a bit more. The other thing I wanna ask is how do you feel when u are on the cycle your mood, energy , sleep and confidence and how is it post cycle?
 
RatnikK said:
Worst case scenario , permanent shut down let's hope that doesn't happen a bit risky.
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If you have a PCT (I'm not talking about a SERM; just an OTC PCT) you won't get shut down. You're not going to get permanently shut down from 1-DHEA.

But, as a side note, saying permanent shut down is "a bit risky" is a huge understatement.

Again, to recap, big difference between 1-Andro and 1-AD. If you're over 21, I'd say run 1-Andro and eat tons. You'll be fine. I just ran 1-Andro as a standalone. I noticed good effects that cannot be classifiably placebo. I enjoyed it and you probably will, too.
 
Heads up too OP since this hasn't been discussed- well dosed is at least 300mg of both compounds. There are a lot of underdosed products out. I would either run super mandro and Andro the giant or the OL products. I would actually feel comfortable starting the OL andros At 220mg and adjusting if needed. Both available at strong if you're looking.
 
RatnikK said:
How come ??
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Best reason is for the long term gains- if your body fat is +20% you haven't tapped your unsupplemented potential. That single cycle is just going to give you a temporary boost that might net a 3lb gain a few months after pct completion. Just pointing out you could probably make the same gains in 4 months and save the cycle for the future.
 
Heavychevss said:
Best reason is for the long term gains- if your body fat is +20% you haven't tapped your unsupplemented potential. That single cycle is just going to give you a temporary boost that might net a 3lb gain a few months after pct completion. Just pointing out you could probably make the same gains in 4 months and save the cycle for the future.
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What? Lmao!
 
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