1/4-Andro options

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Since icon one and alpha four are no longer, what are some good tranadermal alternatives?

also, regarding dosage. I always read you should use 300mg ed yet icon one is 112.5mg at a full 5 pumps so 225mg considering it’s better absorption that oral.

why is this considered a good dose when I see people say you should used 2ml of alpha gainz 1-ad which is more at 125mg/ml dose.

what makes them different?

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You can still find them available at some of the popular retailers mentioned on the board. I'm currently running them now about 3 weeks in and really starting to see results. Other transdermal options would be IML or if pill route super mandro/andro the giant.
 
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Is someone selling a 1,4andro transdermal? Wow. Or are you asking if you should use a 1andro or 4andro product?
 
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Since icon one and alpha four are no longer, what are some good tranadermal alternatives?

also, regarding dosage. I always read you should use 300mg ed yet icon one is 112.5mg at a full 5 pumps so 225mg considering it’s better absorption that oral.

why is this considered a good dose when I see people say you should used 2ml of alpha gainz 1-ad which is more at 125mg/ml dose.

what makes them different?

thanks
Alpha gainz is a great option. Same maker as icon one and can use code chef for a discount. Also salvo is a great topical.
 

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Sorry I wasn’t very clear, I just meant 1 and 4 options, not together.

and what about icon ones dosage being less than the usual recommendation yet highly regarded?
 
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^^ (basically) transdermal makes it more bio available…less dosage needed
 

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That’s correct but I always read it is roughly twice as available. So 112.5x2 is 225mg which is still under dosed, no? Or am I missing something?
 
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You can still find them available at some of the popular retailers mentioned on the board. I'm currently running them now about 3 weeks in and really starting to see results. Other transdermal options would be IML or if pill route super mandro/andro the giant.
Are you using Alpha Four? How’s it going?
 
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Yes I am using alpha four with icon one and epiandro. 3.5 weeks in now and really starting to feel the effects pumps aggression strength gains etc.
Hi, thanks for the response.

Which brand Epi Andro are you using and how are you dosing all the products?

Thank you!
 
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Hi, thanks for the response.

Which brand Epi Andro are you using and how are you doing all the products?

Thank you!
Alpha Heinz has a great one. CEL has one as well if I’m correct. Both good choices.
 
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300mg is for pills.
112 is fine for transdermal.

I just ran IML Gear Cream, decent results, but I had to up it to 5 pump to notice anything (bottle recommends 2 pumps per day). Product is extremely underdosed.

When running Andro 1&4 I'm just going back to pills. Had a good run on Icon one and ultra hard, but the next two gels were a flop.

Andro the Giant and Super Mandro should do you well.
 

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300mg is for pills.
112 is fine for transdermal.

I just ran IML Gear Cream, decent results, but I had to up it to 5 pump to notice anything (bottle recommends 2 pumps per day). Product is extremely underdosed.

When running Andro 1&4 I'm just going back to pills. Had a good run on Icon one and ultra hard, but the next two gels were a flop.

Andro the Giant and Super Mandro should do you well.
Ok thanks for clearing up. So by that rationale, alpha gainz 1&4 should be fine at 1ml/day which is 125mg?
 
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Andro the Giant and Super Mandro should do you well.
Hands down best 1/4 andro combo with a lot of logs on AM on it as well.
 

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I’m in the uk and the only ones I can see available are iconic formulations or alpha gainz unless anyone knows of others?
I’d rather not risk importing it.
 
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I’m in the uk and the only ones I can see available are iconic formulations or alpha gainz unless anyone knows of others?
I’d rather not risk importing it.
Then I'd go with Alpha Four and AG 1-Andro. Could throw in CEL Stano-plex too. A4 4-5 pumps and 1-Andro 1.2 ml and up.

Edit: I see you said A4 is no longer. What do you see available from Iconic?

Can also use AG 1-Andro 1.2 ml (150 mg) and up + AG 4-Andro 1 ml and up. The 4-Andro is 150 mg/ml.
 
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i think you forgot to add...IMO
:)
When it's a fact no reason to add IMO.... ;)

I agree though probably should have added the IMO :)
 
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When it's a fact no reason to add IMO.... ;)

I agree though probably should have added the IMO :)
yeah, i think that is a great idea--although YOU might think it's best there are others including myself that might have a different OPINION...:unsure:

that is unless you can offer PROOF other than your opinion? :)
 
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yeah, i think that is a great idea--although YOU might think it's best there are others including myself that might have a different OPINION...:unsure:

that is unless you can offer PROOF other than your opinion? :)
I thought my opinion was always the correct opinion though? ;)
 
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opinions are like farts, most people like their own best-eh? :p
I thought opinions are like a$$holes. Everyone has one and they all stink! ;)
 
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