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1,4,6-Androstatriene-3,17-dione ] converts to BOLDENONE

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[ Androsta-3,5-diene-7 , 17-dione ] OR [1,4,6-Androstatriene-3,17-dione ] both are ADT. the ADT compound was researched and marketed as an powerful AI as an OTC AI. You find [ Androsta-3,5-diene-7 , 17-dione ] as an Ai in many good products, including ones i take.

Fast forward to now and supp companies are using [1,4,6-Androstatriene-3,17-dione ] and calling it 19 nor delta-6, 19 Norsterindion, and a few others. All they did was rewrite the chem name to sound more like a steriod/PH.

Now here are my questions. ADT will show up in a steroid test as boldenone and that is proven! according to an article i read " [1,4,6-Androstatriene-3,17-dione ] shares an enzyme w boldenone for it to be broken down .
-someone emailed me that in Japan 2 trials administering ADT to non-rat animals, monkeys i think. the translated article explained that ADT is a great suicide inhibitor with a low binding affinity to aromatase and as it passes unattached through the liver it has the possability to turn into
Bold [1,4-androstadiene-3-one,1 7b-ol] VS. ADT [ Androsta-3,5-diene-7 , 17-dione ] they look very similar and enough for me to keep an open mind.

-Nothing i read stated conversion rates just that bold was detected in test animals, if this is true does anybody know what mg would need to be administratored to cause this conversion ? The Japanese article acted as if you take 100mg ADT and 40% attaches and kills the aromatase the remaing 60 % gets converted to bold. this kinda makes sense with how similar the compounds are and you would not notice 60mg of bold, hell it takes weeks to notice boldenone at 600mg

-I remember formistane had a similar method of action. unfortunately its been forever since i have had formistane but in i remeber correctly it could be converted through **** pass or enzyme and became a medium strength androden. i know i botche the formistane analogy so please reinform me what it did.
 
Armistane? That's what we are talking about... Mad that Lecheek markets this as a PCT. Fooled me until I learned about Novla and SERMs
 
Armistane? That's what we are talking about... Mad that Lecheek markets this as a PCT. Fooled me until I learned about Novla and SERMs

[1,4,6-Androstatriene-3,17-dione ] is marketed as AI not only alone as Arimestane but also is in just about every cycle support all-in-one. The problem is that Arimestane totes this product as a proper AI and it does trap and eliminate aromatise but nothing close to Aromasin. But now its being remarketed as a semi-effective PH, more effective than any andro.
 
[1,4,6-Androstatriene-3,17-dione ] is marketed as AI not only alone as Arimestane but also is in just about every cycle support all-in-one. The problem is that Arimestane totes this product as a proper AI and it does trap and eliminate aromatise but nothing close to Aromasin. But now its being remarketed as a semi-effective PH, more effective than any andro.
And who is marketing ATD as an anabolic Prohormone? I haven't seen that happening anywhere.
 
[ Androsta-3,5-diene-7 , 17-dione ] OR [1,4,6-Androstatriene-3,17-dione ] both are ADT. the ADT compound was researched and marketed as an powerful AI as an OTC AI. You find [ Androsta-3,5-diene-7 , 17-dione ] as an Ai in many good products, including ones i take.

Fast forward to now and supp companies are using [1,4,6-Androstatriene-3,17-dione ] and calling it 19 nor delta-6, 19 Norsterindion, and a few others. All they did was rewrite the chem name to sound more like a steriod/PH.

Now here are my questions. ADT will show up in a steroid test as boldenone and that is proven! according to an article i read " [1,4,6-Androstatriene-3,17-dione ] shares an enzyme w boldenone for it to be broken down .
-someone emailed me that in Japan 2 trials administering ADT to non-rat animals, monkeys i think. the translated article explained that ADT is a great suicide inhibitor with a low binding affinity to aromatase and as it passes unattached through the liver it has the possability to turn into
Bold [1,4-androstadiene-3-one,1 7b-ol] VS. ADT [ Androsta-3,5-diene-7 , 17-dione ] they look very similar and enough for me to keep an open mind.

-Nothing i read stated conversion rates just that bold was detected in test animals, if this is true does anybody know what mg would need to be administratored to cause this conversion ? The Japanese article acted as if you take 100mg ADT and 40% attaches and kills the aromatase the remaing 60 % gets converted to bold. this kinda makes sense with how similar the compounds are and you would not notice 60mg of bold, hell it takes weeks to notice boldenone at 600mg

-I remember formistane had a similar method of action. unfortunately its been forever since i have had formistane but in i remeber correctly it could be converted through **** pass or enzyme and became a medium strength androden. i know i botche the formistane analogy so please reinform me what it did.

What supplement companies are doing this? I have degrees in chemistry and there is no way anyone with a brain stem would pass off ATD as 19-nor anything because it's not even close.
 
What supplement companies are doing this? I have degrees in chemistry and there is no way anyone with a brain stem would pass off ATD as 19-nor anything because it's not even close.
Not to mention armistane is absolutely not atd.
 
That as well. ADT & ATD are two drastically different aromatase inhibitors. ATD is a PH to Bold and delta 6 testosterone. ADT has no active metabolites.
Haha I was about to tag you when the OP said ATD was also called 19 Nor Delta 6.
I knew he was way off but hoped you'd chime in and clarify. Loving the Nor Delta 6 oil (as I've mentioned on VL).
 
What supplement companies are doing this? I have degrees in chemistry and there is no way anyone with a brain stem would pass off ATD as 19-nor anything because it's not even close.

ok. so i copied the chem names of Arimestane , ADT, and Boldenone correctly right? plz check first. So I yes I know ADT is not aromastane but pubmed/ wikipedia, and another roid article inerchanged the chem names for ADT and aromistane.

coulp either compound convert to bold? they are very similar. i dont want to knock legit companies but i think NOS LABS, Predator nutri, on 1 i never heard of. plus i dont know why theyre putting 19 nor in some names cuz bold is the only posability
 
That as well. ADT & ATD are two drastically different aromatase inhibitors. ATD is a PH to Bold and delta 6 testosterone. ADT has no active metabolites.

OK that was an oversite, what are the diff chem names and what are the diff method of action
 
OK that was an oversite, what are the diff chem names and what are the diff method of action

3b-HSD will convert the 1,4,6-triene to 1,4-diene(boldenone). The one with the 3,5-diene(ADT) won't convert to anything useful. So forget that one aside from AI use. As for conversion rate, it depends on the equilibrium constant for the enzyme in question. I want to say it's either Cyp3A4,3A19, or 2C9 if anyone wants do some DEEP NIH or Annals of Steroid Biochemistry digging. I would be grateful.
 
3b-HSD will convert the 1,4,6-triene to 1,4-diene(boldenone). The one with the 3,5-diene(ADT) won't convert to anything useful. So forget that one aside from AI use. As for conversion rate, it depends on the equilibrium constant for the enzyme in question. I want to say it's either Cyp3A4,3A19, or 2C9 if anyone wants do some DEEP NIH or Annals of Steroid Biochemistry digging. I would be grateful.
Would the conversation of ATD to bold or other derivatives be somewhat meaningless orally without a methyl attached or TD application? I also recall some speculation that ATD may have some anti-androgen activity but I don't remember if that conern was backed up with research studies or mere bro-science.
 
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