Lean xtreme, DCP, Shred are all good products but diet Is also the key. I've had friends that have had good runs with these products and most of the ones listed above.
I agree. Water, Carbs, and get some PCT going. Actually ordering a Havoc stack tomorrow. I planned on running a 20/20/30/30 but I'm not sure. Had a friend who ran It like that and he had amazing gains and no difficulty with anything.
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