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  1. Experimenter

    Clomid as a run

    Something that has come to mind with regards to Clomid and either ecdy or turk. If ecdy and turk supposedly works at the estrogen beta receptor, would Clomid and other SERMS be contraindicated with them? Seem like it would. I know there are NO studies out there but philosophically this would...
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    John Meadows

    Unbelievably so sad about this. We lost one of the best human beings on earth this past Sunday. Moreso than his tremendous contributions to the iron community, his kindness, respect, humility, encouragements, helpfulness, and friendship is just....hard to repeat....or find. Condolences to...
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    The ANDROGIN Experience

    I did a run of FD2 and Vector awhile back and I'm sorry to say they didn't (or wouldn't) have gotten a "solid reputation" from me. But as I stated before, that's ME. Others DID get great results and that is awesome. But it wasn't for me. My point again about relying on other experiences and...
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    The ANDROGIN Experience

    I don't use anything other than Turk (well, when it was available). That doesn't mean I won't try other things that might seem interesting. I liked his complexing strategy with true Turk. I have not seen others do that or make it available. Usually the 1st novel idea that is productized will...
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    The ANDROGIN Experience

    I do my own detailed documentation but I don't share other than whenever I feel like it is worth sharing. My handle isn't "Experimenter" for nothing. I am my own lab, and I am one who strongly feels we are all SO different that MY results are simply not universal. Too many people "online"...
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    The ANDROGIN Experience

    Amen. It is. Worth it? Only if you have the means to spend that much. There are reasonable cycles of real anabolics that are cheaper than this. But if you want to go the natural route and maximize, it isn't going to be cheap. EVeryone has a choice. And there is NO wrong choice.
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    The ANDROGIN Experience

    I do want to give a too early report on my 1st capsule of Androgin last night. Like everyone has been reporting....wondrous sleep. And as I thought....GREAT mental freshness, lowered feeling of stress after this morning dose. If nothing else, I'm already liking this product for these two...
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    The ANDROGIN Experience

    MPMD Gorilla Mind stuff is not shabby stuff. I was one of the folks lucky enough to try Derek's product at 2g (ends up being 200mg of true Turk complexed) a day when it came out and me being off of everything for a couple years now and IT MADE A REAL DIFFERENCE. No....it is NOT as strong as...
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    The ANDROGIN Experience

    True this. If you keep up with the anecdotal experiences, Ostarine itself sometimes leads some to feel WEAKER. Why? Theory is that it has potentially a higher affinity for the AR and therefore knocks off the more potent AR agonist (testosterone in this case). I think of it this way: Clomid...
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    The ANDROGIN Experience

    AND, apologies to the OP. My responses, comments, and questions should have been in another thread or the main one where Brundel introduced Androgin. I didn't mean to hijack....forgot where I was.
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    The ANDROGIN Experience

    Not to always be sounding like that guy who has nothing positive to say or is always the party pooper, but strength gain and muscle gain after laying off but starting serious again (meaning not just the training but the eating) is due primarily to that them there "muscle memory". It's real. So...
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    The ANDROGIN Experience

    Thanks Brundel. I have taken Ginseng before (I think everyone has) and frankly I liked its stress relieving effects on me but it had NO anabolic properties at all. Nada. Mentally it really put me in a good mood and I think Ginseng is very under rated for this. But like so many supplements...
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    The ANDROGIN Experience

    A question that pops up in my head: you are well aware that steroid users or former users constantly play the "dosage" game. We also know (or eventually find out IF we are doing things smart and safe....so many uninformed don't (and the legions of these folks grow exponentially these days))...
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    The ANDROGIN Experience

    Appreciate the study reference Brundel. Whenever novel products based on extrapolation of studies come out, inevitable scrutiny from the experienced and analytical crowd comes out. Same thing with the fanboys and supporters no matter what a company does. Both are needed. As a previous...
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    The ANDROGIN Experience

    And I wonder...because of similar backbone structure and "bulkiness"....I wonder if binding to the estrogin beta receptor like waht Turk does is a possible anabolic mechanism? Whatever the case I salute Black Lion Research and companies like it (Antaeus Labs) for novel thinking. Bravo. Bravo...
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    The ANDROGIN Experience

    Turkesterone also has a similar structure but doesn't seem to bind to the androgen receptor due to its size. It looks like ginsenosides are just as "bulky" and unless those parts are cleaved off via some metabolic process, its hard to imagine that any strong binding if any occurs. That...
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    ANDROGIN product FAQ NEW BLR PRODUCT!!!

    Brundel: I'm sure there will be dosage recommendations coming soon. If there is anything you can share however with what some of your pre-testers were using, that would help me evaluate how I plan to run this. The label (from the pics) indicate 2 caps is the serving size....is this a 2...
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    ANDROGIN product FAQ NEW BLR PRODUCT!!!

    Promising. 4 bottles coming my way. : ) Too bad I didn't realize there was promo code?
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    Turkesterone at 2-3g?

    Yeah...we will see how it goes. My expectations are low, but my hope is high. It may turn out this is like most animal studies: ultimately they show animals and humans aren't really so alike biochemically.
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    Turkesterone at 2-3g?

    all4gains: I hear ya. Me, I like trying things out cause one never knows until one does. Who knows? Maybe I hit the 1 in a 100,000 who actually will get some measurable results with this.
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