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That's not a bad idea. I haven't found it very suppressive but caution is good here. Pretty much everything is good with trest (I personally would not mix 4-dhea with it). Honestly, trest is good on its own, just as long as you have an AI. If you can find more mechabol, that's an awesome combo.

Totally agree, trest is a great compound. I also agree about it being too strong for an osta run. I might even consider using osta in PCT after trest and something else.

I've done that, I'd prefer trest/Epi or trest/celtibol. Tren really spiked my blood pressure and made me a bit more aggressive than I would have liked. I agree that transdermal is better for stability, though combining transdermal with a small dose orally pwo is awesome if you can control the...

How old are you? As stated above, if you have to ask about growth plates, you shouldn't be messing with SARMs or anything else. We older guys would kill to be producing the levels of T that the younger guys do naturally. Use it while you can, don't worry about anabolics, figure out how to grow.

Yup, fair enough. I would much rather go the pinning route, my cholesterol would thank me, it just creates some logistical issues right now.

I mean honestly, it's not bad advice, but I have a feeling that if he was going to go the pinning route, he wouldn't be asking about Epi for his first cycle.

Lol, why not just run it solo if he's going to go the pinning route

Control estrogen and you will control most of the prolactin issues. I haven't really had a need for inhibit-p with trest, personally. I rotate between topical formestane and erase/arimistane (my joints don't like too much erase).

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Your heart will HATE you for that. Blood pressure is hard to control on cycle and ephedrine will make that worse. With tren, you are going to be sweating like a madman :)

I have had much less lethargy with trest than I did with dermacrine and stano, but I suppose YMMV.

Did you use something like Nizoral to try to counteract it?

Msten more toxic than hdrol, that's the reason why not to do it first. For your first time out, the milder the better because you never know how you will be affected. For your first cycle basically anything will give you good results, so learn how to manage side effects with something with...

Yeah, that's why we have rules here. You're not even allowed to post asking for advice here at that age. The right answer for a 15 is NEVER going to be a properly constructed cycle unless it's put together by a physician and treating a specific legitimate medical condition, like hypogonadism. If...

My point is not to start an argument with someone who is not even OP. The fact is, at 21 you still create a lot of natural test, and if you're not going to stop drinking on cycle, and aren't sure that HCG is subcutaneous while test is intramuscular, maybe you aren't ready from a research...

So if a 15 year old comes on here, you're going to give him proper cycle advice?

It's irresponsible to give advice just because someone is deadset on doing whatever they want. Any time I give advice to someone who is probably too young or inexperienced for a cycle, I point out that they should wait a few years. Then if they are going to ignore it and do what they want, at...

21 you shouldn't be cycling. Use your natural test and get more sleep.

Your answer didn't really answer the question. All you did was say how good you believe OL products are. The question was how do the two compare. Don't get me wrong, I have a bottle of tr1umph and dermatrest I'm running now, but we kinda have to take some rep answers with a grain of salt...

Super cissus, and don't do a cycle until you're done rehabbing. It's just a bad idea, you're going to end up pushing too hard and injuring yourself. If you had to do a cycle, your best bets would be GH and something like deca (or NPP). Trestolone is wet but I haven't noticed much in the way of...