Ive ran 2x, first time was 20,20,20,30 w/propodrol and got around 6lbs on cut, last time I ran chapparrall labs at 30,30,30,30 and got 11lb on it, and used OTC pct both times, Id recommend 30,30,30,30 no sides, no shutdown, nips got a lil puffy toward the end, but nothing major this is just my...