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  1. once and for all: superdrol vs super dmz 2.0

    i know this has obviously been discussed before, just wanted to get some more feedback from people that have used both. It has come to be a general understanding that superdrol is little harder on sides but solely in terms of effectiveness which should yield better results? which one gives more...
  2. using melanotan II with prohormones

    sup guys. i'm a newbie to melanotan II. Ive heard some great things about and am going to be running it during the summer with my cutting cycle. As i said this will be my first time using it so i have a few questions. I found a trusted site where i bought 3 30 mg vials for 98 bucks. 1. ive read...
  3. day 9 on msten. haven't seen one ounce of strength gain.

    day 9 on msten. haven't seen one ounce of strength gain. on day 9 of BFN mass trauma 20 mgs and so far im not impressed at all. i'm not exaggerating when i say i haven't made any strength gains in any lift. i actually felt weaker the last couple workouts. i am up 3 pounds, def water weight...
  4. How long did it take for msten to kick in for you guys?

    i really don't think its bunk because i have def noticed fuller denser muscles which is probably glycogen and i have retained some water, and my pumps are amazing. i just haven't seen any mass or strength gains yet. literally haven't gotten any stronger in anything.
  5. How long did it take for msten to kick in for you guys?

    i'm on day 5 of mass trauma 20 mgs. i know its still early yet but i haven't noticed any size or strength yet. today's workout actually sucked. did chest and bi's and i couldn't get 130 lb dumbells up off my chest when i can normally get 5-7 actually felt real weak today. I do look fuller and...
  6. Bloating on PH's that don't aromatize

    ive been on mass trauma(msten) for 2 days now. So far i feel amazing and ive had awesome pumps and very little soreness in the 2 workouts that ive had on it but ever since i started i get a wicked bloat/ protrude in my stomach. i can't tell if it is this or maybe cycle assist because it seems...
  7. msten dosage- too many contradicting opinions(help)

    whats up everyone. in 10 days i will be starting my mass trauma(msten) cycle. Caps are at 4 mgs a piece. Ive heard so many different responses of people saying msten is so potent that it shouldn't be ran over 12 mgs and recommending a 4 week cycle of 8/8/12/12 and that anything over that would...
  8. running stims on epi

    would it be okay to run stims with epistane? im setting a buddy of mine up with an epistane/11-oxo hardcore cutting cycle. since blood pressure issues are usually associated with phs/ds that cause water retention such as super, msten, dmz, alpha 1, etc.. just wondering if it would be okay to run...
  9. Msten at 20 mgs!!

    sup everyone. i have 2 bottles of mass trauma (msten) at 4 mgs per cap. I am planning a 5 week cycle, soo stoked, and want to work my way up to 20 mgs which would be 5 caps a day. I know i should've waited and got IML msten rx at 10 mgs per cap. my cycle will look like this. 12/12/16/20/20. This...
  10. Anyone tried estrength by galaxy supplements?

    has anyone tried this? i have 2 bottles. each cap contains 10 mgs superdrol and 15mgs cyano. The thing that im wondering about is why it is marketed as a cutting product. It claims are that it is for times when your not worry about size but want to get harder, dense, definition, and vascular...
  11. How to avoid total shutdown while on SD

    dhea has aromatization properties that can be unpredictable. I would recommend stanodrol if your trying to keep energy, libido, aggression higher while on superdrol. its dht properties and high androgenic profile will make you feel better while on superdrol. In the case of preventing complete...
  12. 11-0XO

    1. Would 11-oxo have any benefit in a bulk or would it only be useful in a cut to mitigate the muscle wasting effects of cortisol during a caloric defecit? 2. Is it strong enough to promote fat loss during a bulk? 3. Would a 6 week 11-oxo ONLY cycle be strong enough to need a SERM? thanks guys
  13. superdrol or msten for better vascularity??

    i have some stano on hand in case lethargy kicks in.
  14. superdrol or msten for better vascularity??

    which one would be better for increasing vascularity in a lean bulk? The reason i ask is because i have both the original super dmz(superdrol & dmz), and 2.0 (msten & dmz). Just trying to decided which one to run over the summer because i want to stay as vascular and hard as possible over the...
  15. Super DMZ (Original Version)

    in a few months i'm planning on running the original super dmz (Superdrol&Dymethazine). Even though its a while away i'm stocking up on my supports, PCT, etc. and getting them out of the way so i don't have to worry about it once my cycle comes. I have done 2 cycles h-drol, and dmz. Both with...
  16. DAA & 6-oxo Induced Gyno

    high dose of vitamin b6 Now sports has it for pretty cheap, and continue the erase.
  17. So many options, what should I run??

    so far i have 2 cycles under my belt. Halodrol, and dimethazine. I have alot of stuff stocked up just wondering what would be the best option for next cycle. Here's what I have 1- LGI DMZ-15(dymethazine) 3- SD-10 (SUPERDROL) 1- Shredded Labs M-sten 1- Epi-10(Epistane) 1- eStrength(superdrol &...
  18. Shelf life on opened PH's

    I know that unopened bottles have a shelf life of several years but what about opened ones. The reason I ask is because my younger brother got into a bottle of my original super dmz(superdrol & DMZ). Didn't take anything thank god said he just wanted to smell them, dumbass. haha anyway i wasn't...
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