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  1. VECTOR pre release leaks and info

    Are we still going to be able to find out what's in this before it goes on sale? Sorry if I missed it, 30 pages is a lot to read.

  2. VECTOR pre release leaks and info

    Kicking a dead horse still huh? Do you need some help figuring this stuff out, or do you just think you're funny be keeping this going?

  3. VECTOR pre release leaks and info

    Looking forward to seeing the ingredients. I give up. You guys believe whatever makes you feel good in this small echo chamber. After all these years, I still come here for innovative products like Brundels, not for intelligent scientific discussion. I should have known better than trying to help.

  4. VECTOR pre release leaks and info

    None of this matters. It would still help to quantify results if the variables are removed. Why is this so hard for people here to understand?

  5. VECTOR pre release leaks and info

    There is a reason creatine would be discontinued if this were a real scientific study. Do some research on eliminating variables. This isn't a million dollar study by the fda lol, but I think you can see why creatine would have been stopped prior to vector, in a real scientific study. I cant...

  6. VECTOR pre release leaks and info

    Still trying to beat a dead horse huh? I'm sure you made this statement because you just know your body SO well! lmao..smart man^^^

  7. VECTOR pre release leaks and info

    No offense man, but you obviously don't understand how this works at all...carry on :-)

  8. VECTOR pre release leaks and info

    Thanks for the clarification, but I thought this sounded more like a comment from a long long time ago, on a planet far far away.

  9. VECTOR pre release leaks and info

    What have you been reading lol? Something that's been out for over 20 years? Did you mean to post this comment in another thread?? No clue what you mean by this.

  10. VECTOR pre release leaks and info

    No worries, I don't feel like you are attacking me. I appreciate your intelligent discussion, without resorting to insults :-). Clinical double blind study or not, im still adamant that dropping the creatine before the Vector would be a big help in clarifying the results. His anecdotal evidence...

  11. VECTOR pre release leaks and info

    That would be great :-) haha, but I'm not asking for a million dollar study. I only suggested dropping the creatine for quantifiable results and a more accurate portrayal of Vectors effects. Nonetheless, I have had success with other blr products and am still interested in trying this myself.

  12. VECTOR pre release leaks and info

    And I mean this with all due respect. Since when does advocating for him to drop the creatine for quantifiable results mean I shouldn't be interested in the product? No offense, but that makes no sense. Also, its not my "thoughts" that the results would be skewed, its a fact. I learned how to...

  13. VECTOR pre release leaks and info

    Ok, you know what? I was actually interested in the product, and that's why im curious to see what it can do. Everyone attacking my for having higher standards and understanding what it takes to design a study, is really just showing me who you are and what you know. In no way am I attacking...

  14. VECTOR pre release leaks and info

    So insult someone because you don't understand how this works? Now YOU sound like someone with no friends.

  15. VECTOR pre release leaks and info

    That will skew the results in a clinical or non clinical setting. The only difference is that some on here won't mind. I prefer to refer to studies and logs where one can accurately gauge results. In this case, there will be no quantifiable results. One may "try" and quantify results, but this...

  16. VECTOR pre release leaks and info

    I don't think so my man. There is no possible way to quantify extra gains. So if youve already been on testosterone, creatine, etc. for awhile, then they are no longer doing anything?? Thats funny, then why take them? If you are familiar with the way appropriate studies are conducted, then you...

  17. VECTOR pre release leaks and info

    This does skew the results some for me. Even fully saturated, you obviously make better gains while taking creatine, so figuring out which of the two is doing what, will be a guess.

  18. VECTOR pre release leaks and info

    Could it be that it "mimics" certain androgenic qualities, but isn't actually activating androgen receptors? If it's really androgenic, then I don't believe it's possible for this not to supress you.

  19. VECTOR pre release leaks and info

    So is this not androgenic after all? If it is, then this will be supressive at some point. I thought I read that this was androgenic, but maybe I'm wrong.

  20. VECTOR pre release leaks and info

    So Vectors magical ingredients are salt and pepper extract lol? Jk, but seriously how can anyone get excited about putting unknown ingredients in their body? I won't even give this a second thought until I know what's in it. This isn't like the affordable care act is it? By it, then we'll tell...
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