They were supposedly strength trained athletes and the placebo group sure didn't get noob gains. While the study is one thing, stacking 300mg of 1 and 4 together is basically the same thing as a double dosed AndroMass v2 cycle so I would expect the same results as that if stacked.
I'm pretty impressed by the ingredients in Controlled Labs Orange Beat since all of these popped up in my research and one product contains them all. I might make this a staple.
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Bergomot
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While it's speculative that you can actually take 4-DHEA and match anywhere near a quality cycle of actual testosterone we actually have one study of 330mg 1-DHEA producing 8lbs of LBM in 30 days being compared to 400 ml of test a week. 300mg of 1-DHEA and 4-DHEA together would be just like...
What is the verdict on stacking DMZ with Msten? That was a thing in the OTC prohormone days yet I haven't seen anybody in this thread mention experimenting on this combination with the exception of one person who already has both of them and more from the past.
I have an order ready for strong supplements but with Labor Day coming I'm not sure if there will be sales or discount codes coming around. Should I wait a few weeks on my order?
I found the half used bottle from when I tried this in the past and stopped due to lethargy.
I have 35/60 caps in it. I could run a 6.5 week run of this stuff but that might be too harsh on the body. Otherwise I can't actually run two full 1 month cycles so I don't know what to do with these now
I was going to order the PCT and ancillaries for 2 cycles but ordering for a 3rd now with this. Figuring out which cycle support the run, liver support is a given.
I could turn this thread into a log when I do run it but my concern is having lethargy ruin it. I've been training up my cardio in...
Reposted because the first one was brigadded by people lecturing me that this isn't raw M1T which I already know, it's a prohormone to M1T that was banned. I found an old bottle of BSL's Alpha 1 Max...... anyway
I bought 2 before the PH ban and I ran one of them that I stopped taking half way...
Didn't know what Triple X was and I would probably get the movie if I googled it lol
Yeah Epistane is supposed to fight gyno. For the thread I think I recall RAD140 helping to combat gyno and the running DHT cycles in prohormones has worked for people.
The reason I want to boost up myonuclei is because I don't want to be that person who cycles on and off forever chasing gains. I just want to do a minimal amount of cycles that will increase my "natty" limit for decades after.
The case for androgen receptor up and down regulation is something...
I used to go very deep years ago before work and studying pulled me away. I never got into posting these topics back than so I don't have any archive of the studies I saw in the past. I'm just going to post any studies I find to this thread that might contribute and my own notes of...
Heard about how taking anabolics leads to a permanent increase in myonuclei? This means that even after you come off you're ability to put on and hold muscle will be forever increased, effectively breaking past your natty limits. This is why people say that once you run a cycle you can never...
When I look into the topic of anabolics increasing myonuclei it keeps going back to supraphysiological levels of testosterone increasing nitrogen retention and satellite cell recruitment, but this isn't necessarily exclusive to testosterone. Does the increase in myonuclei gains have a linear...
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