Read what I said! Perhaps its you and your interpretation.
Cheap - yes, very inexpensive.
Nasty - yeah, products containing 400-500mg of caffeine per serving is nasty on top of cheap.
Excessive amonts of caffeine can MASK innefectiveness of other stimulants contained.
No where did I say what...
It's also well know that some don't tolerate it well. I can take lots of other things combined without caffeine and have no adverse effects. Add caffeine and sides. Too much caffeine solo...sides. Thanks but no thanks.
Abuse is abuse. Cause everyone you know doses 14 g a day doesnt mean thats safe responsible people do.
I dose pre 3-5g at max and have for years and never ever had a bad experience.
Who told you it wasn't addictive. It binds to the opiate receptor. What other misinformation and poor choices...
You come posting on a compound you used, and abused, and then get on your self righteous high horse about addiction and the road to pain.
Yeah. You hit a nerve. Spare us the bull****.
Too many things wrong about the OP.
11-15g a day for 5 weeks. You abused it. Not kratoms fault. Also you don't cold turkey. I half dose titrate it out of my system over a couple weeks.
Additionally...pre workout green white and yellow kratom shines.
Appreciate your post.
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