Anabolic Pump question..

MakaveliThaDon

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How many grams of carbs do you normally need to consume with it to get the added benefits? And also I thought I read somewhere that a few bros experienced a sick feeling if they didn't eat enough carbs with it.

I see one of the ingredients in it is P-slin. So what is the difference between this and just regular P-slin?
 
I'm confused about this preworkout P-Slin talk. Are you guys saying take it preworkout without carbs? I saw Grexx say he takes it and then sips on WMS.
 
dont the ingreadients have more tannis in anabolic pump... thats why i have stayed away... something is strangly fishy :)
 
didnt know what exactly what was in anabolic pump. was a bit skeptical at first but my friend gave me a bottle of it for free. he called it a mega sample :P. i tried it and loved it. id buy it agian tho fo sure.
 
yah it is good dont get me wrong. but i didnt notice that much. and by fishy i mean Pslin being maybe 2x as strong or something than AP. then i would just take 2 AP before workout... but i dunno could be way off
 
Cellardude said:
didnt know what exactly what was in anabolic pump. was a bit skeptical at first but my friend gave me a bottle of it for free. he called it a mega sample :P. i tried it and loved it. id buy it agian tho fo sure.
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What was the main difference that you seen while on it?
 
SOURCE: USP LABS INFO ON P-SLIN

In short, the main difference between AP and P-Slin is P-Slin’s ability to utilize enormous amount of carbohydrates and amino acids and drive those nutrients directly into your muscle cells to promote lean muscle gain, mind-blowing pumps, “roadmap” vascularity, Ironman-like endurance and rapid recovery from workouts.

P-Slin has a large clinical dose of the extract engineered from Lagerstroemia Speciosa that requires huge amounts carbohydrates to be eaten…causing an enormous disposal of carbohydrates and amino acids directly into muscle tissue pre-workout!

So basically P-Slin floods your muscles with a huge influx of usable nutrients to create an environment where new muscle tissue is built and the body burns fat for energy!

P-Slin is specially designed to be used pre-workout when “nutrient-flooding” is most useful to the body to promote strength, size, definition, pumps, endurance and vascularity.

P-Slin can also be stacked with Anabolic-Pump as P-Slin should only be used once a day...while AP is designed to allow you to eat normal meals, get huge pumps, gain more muscle and strength and promote loss of body fat.

hope this may clear some things up for you guys...
 
well . i took complex carbs and some simple carbs ( reg rice) while on anabolic. i basically saw like a slight leaning out effect on my abs and my biceps were noticebly swollen. It looked like a giant water ballon ready to blow. The time i noticed the swells the most was after a work out. I saw my lats swell and my biceps as well. P-Slin should do you wonders and so should a- pump. just eat your complex carbs while on it.
 
I want to try anabolic pump, but do the effects that it yields (swelling of muscles) really help with muscle growth? When you went off of AP, had you gained any real mass, or maintained any strength that you had gained?
 
ManInTheBox said:
I want to try anabolic pump, but do the effects that it yields (swelling of muscles) really help with muscle growth? When you went off of AP, had you gained any real mass, or maintained any strength that you had gained?
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It makes your body more efficient with using insulin. By delivering a constant stream of glucose and AAs to the muscle, the muscle becomes super-saturated with glycogen and this leads to increased recovery and hypertrophy.
 
matthew76 said:
SOURCE: USP LABS INFO ON P-SLIN

In short, the main difference between AP and P-Slin is P-Slin’s ability to utilize enormous amount of carbohydrates and amino acids and drive those nutrients directly into your muscle cells to promote lean muscle gain, mind-blowing pumps, “roadmap” vascularity, Ironman-like endurance and rapid recovery from workouts.

P-Slin has a large clinical dose of the extract engineered from Lagerstroemia Speciosa that requires huge amounts carbohydrates to be eaten…causing an enormous disposal of carbohydrates and amino acids directly into muscle tissue pre-workout!

So basically P-Slin floods your muscles with a huge influx of usable nutrients to create an environment where new muscle tissue is built and the body burns fat for energy!

P-Slin is specially designed to be used pre-workout when “nutrient-flooding” is most useful to the body to promote strength, size, definition, pumps, endurance and vascularity.

P-Slin can also be stacked with Anabolic-Pump as P-Slin should only be used once a day...while AP is designed to allow you to eat normal meals, get huge pumps, gain more muscle and strength and promote loss of body fat.

hope this may clear some things up for you guys...
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to clarify a bit further - it is still not a preworkout. it is very much necessary to eat 15 minutes after taking p-slin just like in AP. However - it is recommended that you consume a much higher amount of carbs - 60 -100 grams as opposed to the rquired amount for AP. It is preworkout i believe, in the sense that you only take it once a day - so it is recommended to be taken before your last meal before your workout.

:D
 
Rodja said:
It makes your body more efficient with using insulin. By delivering a constant stream of glucose and anabolic steroids to the muscle, the muscle becomes super-saturated with glycogen and this leads to increased recovery and hypertrophy.
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Hmmm...now this is just my opinion, which might be a bit biased, because I base it on my own body type. But it's too bad that P-slin and AP need to be taken with a large amount of carbs. Otherwise you could use it as part of a LOW carb diet while you are cutting, if you are like me, in order to cut you need to go pretty low with your carbs. And the AP or P-slin could make the small amount of carbs you DO eat be just as effective as a larger amount, thus making you not as fatigued while cutting your carbs back.

My muscles already swell, and I bloat up on just 150-200g of clean carbs a day. So I'm wondering if maybe I'm just going to get severely bloated if I try to take AP along with my small 40-50g carb meals.
 
AnonyMoose said:
to clarify a bit further - it is still not a preworkout. it is very much necessary to eat 15 minutes after taking p-slin just like in AP. However - it is recommended that you consume a much higher amount of carbs - 60 -100 grams as opposed to the rquired amount for AP. It is preworkout i believe, in the sense that you only take it once a day - so it is recommended to be taken before your last meal before your workout.

:D
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Thanks for clearing that up. I was confused when I heard people call it a pre-workout supp. Too bad I'm not gonna be able to try this for a while, I'm not gonna be eating enough carbs in the near future. :(
 
MakaveliThaDon said:
Hmmm...now this is just my opinion, which might be a bit biased, because I base it on my own body type. But it's too bad that P-slin and AP need to be taken with a large amount of carbs. Otherwise you could use it as part of a LOW carb diet while you are cutting, if you are like me, in order to cut you need to go pretty low with your carbs. And the AP or P-slin could make the small amount of carbs you DO eat be just as effective as a larger amount, thus making you not as fatigued while cutting your carbs back.

My muscles already swell, and I bloat up on just 150-200g of clean carbs a day. So I'm wondering if maybe I'm just going to get severely bloated if I try to take AP along with my small 40-50g carb meals.
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there would be no point in taking ap or pslin then. it is not reccommended for those on high protien diets or those who have rotations in their diet with high protien days. basically - it needs a lot of carbs and it forces them to the muscle! this is the science behind the supp. now technically - this is done biologically with how rodja explains it helps you utilize insulin more efficiently.
 
I thought there were people using AP on this site for cutting... can't locate the threads at the moment but i remember reading that some users were having success with AP on moderate carb cutting diets, and that some1 was even using it on a ketosis diet
 
Movin_weight said:
I thought there were people using AP on this site for cutting... can't locate the threads at the moment but i remember reading that some users were having success with AP on moderate carb cutting diets, and that some1 was even using it on a ketosis diet
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on the contrary - i have even seen usplab reps actually quote you would be wasting your money w/o carbs and only on protein. but true - used for cutting yes. As it will produce muscle by help you metabolize your fat at the same time and push the carbs directly to the muscle - not your fat.

i would be interested if there is other information on diet with ap for cutting as you are suggesting if you can find the threads.
 
About 4 months ago... i was cutting BIG TIME (from 185-160lbs)!!!

I got my abs back and then did a ProHormone cycle... putting on a good 7-8lbs of lean mass....

ANyways.. i used AP while cutting and it was worthless. I, too, tend to be a little puffy when i carb up. I notice my abs start to fade when i consume more than 200grams a day.... and since i was cutting BIG TIME.. i rarely had over 100g a day! So i stopped taking AP at that time...

NOW... after my cycle.. i have noticed i can up my carbs to around the 200 mark... and cycle it to around 225 on "high carb" days.. and down to 125 on "low carb days"... and one day a week i drop to around 50-75 grams...

This carb/caloric cycling seem to have allowed me to consume 200+ grams and not see my abs disappear.

I just started taking AP again... i take 15-20 minutes before breakfast (important b/c breakfast tends to be a higher carb meal) and will take another AP before my postworkout simple carb meal... and the other AP i take whenever i consume a meal over 40grams in carbs...

I hope this will work to allow my body to effectively use the carbs. Now that i am not on the ProHormone, and my test levels are not as high (actually.. they are REALLY REALLY low, using a SERM for that) i need whatever carbs i intake to be used driven into the mucle and not stored as fat.... I also upped my cardio to 4 times a week....


Just my input ...
 
I would assume if a person is eating less than 100g of carbs a day then AP would be rather useless... however from what i remember reading is people who were using AP during a cut were able to increase there carbs and still see the same results as if they were consuming less carbs

This makes sense if AP does what it is supposed to do which is increase insulin sensitivity and the utilization of carbs

so say if a person is eating roughly 100g carbs per day to minimze fat storage from carb sources... then by adding AP b4 carb containing meals i would only imagine it would benefit by better utilizing these carbs and driving them directly into the mucles as glycogen, and even further decrease fat storage

By doing this you may not see the massive pumps and increase in muscle since, glycogen storage will not be nearly as high as compared to a high carb diet (so the initial claims of the product would become obsolete) but i would still assume it would benefit during a cut since the carbs being ingested are more likely to be stored as glycogen than fat

unfortunately i'v yet to put this to the test even though i'v used AP several times
 
As mentioned before....

I cycle my carbs.... So i'll let you know how it works for me during my PCT i'm on right now...
 
AnonyMoose said:
there would be no point in taking ap or pslin then. it is not reccommended for those on high protien diets or those who have rotations in their diet with high protien days. basically - it needs a lot of carbs and it forces them to the muscle! this is the science behind the supp. now technically - this is done biologically with how rodja explains it helps you utilize insulin more efficiently.
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Isn't everybody that bb's on a high protein diet? :)
 
Ap

I'm using AP right now while carb cycling/cyclic ketosis diet. I am the typical endomorph body type - gain muscle/fat easily, but hard to cut bodyfat. Cutting fat for me has always been about insulin maintenace and a clean diet with appropiate exercise.

Right now, I am only eating carbs post workout and on the weekend. The goal is to stay in Ketonic state during the week and then to carb up on the weekend to replenish glycogen stores. I found that this has helped me utilize carbs when I do eat them rather then storing them as fat. Adding AP to the mix is *hopefully* going to further enhance my efforts in carb utilization.

This diet tends to sacrifice strength, but cutting while maintaining as much muscle and strength as possible is my goal. Hence the appeal of AP...

I'm only 2 weeks in, so I will let you know how it goes. I'm currently stacking JW and RPM along with the AP. JW to maintain as much strength as possible and RPM for the focus working out.

Joe
 
For some reason that stuff didnt give me a pumped feeling at all. What it did do was cut some fat off me pretty quick. It seemed more effective at cutting fat than stims I have used. I have no idea why.
 
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