93nitemare
New member
OK let me start off by saying I'm not 14 years old by by screen name (it's in reference to my 1993 Mustang) I'm actually 27.
I have done a couple inj. cycles in the past. One was a Test Cyp and Deca stack for 6 weeks, that was 2 years ago. I followed it with Clomid for 4 weeks and DHEA. To my knowledge I didn't get Gyno? My pecs didn't hurt, were not sore, nipples were not sensitive, and no presense of small lumps behind the nipples. I blew up from 172# to 190#. I kept about 13 of them.
After that cycle I took 3 months off and did a cycle of inj. Winny for 6 weeks. I mainly did this to cut up some of the left over fat from the Test Cyp. and Deca. I lost about 3# but my strength stayed the same. At that point I weighed 181-182# and was benching 340#. I went from 10% b/f to 7% b/f. I also used Clomid and DHEA as a PCT.
I hurt my wrist bad toward the end of my Winny cycle. So have been out of the game for two years now. I just started to get back into it 3 weeks ago and my strength is coming back fast again....and my weight! Cause muscle has memory it's almost like I'm juicing again. I weigh 185# and just benched 285# last week. I started out 3 weeks ago my max bench was 255#. So I've been in theory increasing my bench by 10# a week.
The supplements I have been taking are as follow:
-Multi Vitamin
-Protein Powder and Bars been getting about 180-220 grams a day
-Tribulus Terrestris 1 625mg pill ed
-DHEA 1 50mg pill ed
-Glutamine 3000mg ed
-Cellmass 1 heaping scoop ed
I just got some NO-Explode and will be taking that starting Monday.
Now onto my questions. I have never taken a Pro Hormone. This is b/c from 2-4 years ago I used to think they were fake or junk like most of the "here one day and gone the next" supplements. I just started reading up on them a few weeks ago. All I can say is WOW some of the stuff is stronger than illegal gear! There is just so much info to know and read up on. You almost have to be a chemist or biology major to grasp or know all this info!
Several months back my buddy had some 50mg Winny pills that he did not need/want anymore. SO I grabbed them up for a real good price
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I also was told about Hemadrol by EST from a fellow lifter. He said it's a derivative/copy of Haladrol-50 which is the same as Oral Turinabol. So I orderd 2 bottles of it before they might ban that also.
I was planning on doing the stack Winny and Hema in a few months when I plateau. I was thinking about taking the recommended 50mg ed of Hema along with 25mg a day of Winny. These are both Methyl's correct? If so would it be a bad idea to take them together for concerns of my liver? I was planning on only a 4 week cycle for the combo. They say it's not good to do one methyl for longer than 6 weeks for concerns of your liver. I figure if I do both and take it for only 4 weeks it shouldn't be that harsh. I mean hell they have OmnEvol out which is 3 Methyl's in one....but I have heard bad stuff about this! Some say it's good that have taken it while others wouldn't give it to their worst enemy.
If I do this stack I was thinking about taking the supporting supplements with it. For instance starting a week before the stack and along side with the stack:
-Perfect Cycle ed along with a seperate 1200mg Milk Thistle pills
-RYR
-CoQ10
Also, this is when I will stop taking the Tribulus, DHEA, and Creatine. I will only stay on the Protein Powder/Bars, Glutamine, Multi-Vita., and NO-Explode during the cycle.
Is there any other supporting supplements I should take or substitute for?
Next is the PCT. From only a few days reading up on PCT's there have been wayyyy to many mixed reviews/concerns on what to take, how much to take, how long to take it, don't take an "ai" with a "atd." Basically I want only an experienced/knowledgable person from EXPERIENCE first hand to tell me or critique, not from what Joe Schumkatelly told you!
My PCT plan:
-Nolvadex or Clomid
-Rebound XT or POst Cycle by IDS
-Chrysin
-DHEA and Tribulus
-CoQ10
-Starting up the Creatine again
I really don't know crap about PCT's in the past all the illegal roid heads swore by Nolva or Clomid. PCT has come a long way since I last knew about it. So don't rip me a new one if I wrote up a wrong PCT. My main concern is I want to keep most of what I made in those 4 weeks and I don't want any chance of Gyno!
Thanks guys,
"Nitemare"
I have done a couple inj. cycles in the past. One was a Test Cyp and Deca stack for 6 weeks, that was 2 years ago. I followed it with Clomid for 4 weeks and DHEA. To my knowledge I didn't get Gyno? My pecs didn't hurt, were not sore, nipples were not sensitive, and no presense of small lumps behind the nipples. I blew up from 172# to 190#. I kept about 13 of them.
After that cycle I took 3 months off and did a cycle of inj. Winny for 6 weeks. I mainly did this to cut up some of the left over fat from the Test Cyp. and Deca. I lost about 3# but my strength stayed the same. At that point I weighed 181-182# and was benching 340#. I went from 10% b/f to 7% b/f. I also used Clomid and DHEA as a PCT.
I hurt my wrist bad toward the end of my Winny cycle. So have been out of the game for two years now. I just started to get back into it 3 weeks ago and my strength is coming back fast again....and my weight! Cause muscle has memory it's almost like I'm juicing again. I weigh 185# and just benched 285# last week. I started out 3 weeks ago my max bench was 255#. So I've been in theory increasing my bench by 10# a week.
The supplements I have been taking are as follow:
-Multi Vitamin
-Protein Powder and Bars been getting about 180-220 grams a day
-Tribulus Terrestris 1 625mg pill ed
-DHEA 1 50mg pill ed
-Glutamine 3000mg ed
-Cellmass 1 heaping scoop ed
I just got some NO-Explode and will be taking that starting Monday.
Now onto my questions. I have never taken a Pro Hormone. This is b/c from 2-4 years ago I used to think they were fake or junk like most of the "here one day and gone the next" supplements. I just started reading up on them a few weeks ago. All I can say is WOW some of the stuff is stronger than illegal gear! There is just so much info to know and read up on. You almost have to be a chemist or biology major to grasp or know all this info!
Several months back my buddy had some 50mg Winny pills that he did not need/want anymore. SO I grabbed them up for a real good price
.I also was told about Hemadrol by EST from a fellow lifter. He said it's a derivative/copy of Haladrol-50 which is the same as Oral Turinabol. So I orderd 2 bottles of it before they might ban that also.
I was planning on doing the stack Winny and Hema in a few months when I plateau. I was thinking about taking the recommended 50mg ed of Hema along with 25mg a day of Winny. These are both Methyl's correct? If so would it be a bad idea to take them together for concerns of my liver? I was planning on only a 4 week cycle for the combo. They say it's not good to do one methyl for longer than 6 weeks for concerns of your liver. I figure if I do both and take it for only 4 weeks it shouldn't be that harsh. I mean hell they have OmnEvol out which is 3 Methyl's in one....but I have heard bad stuff about this! Some say it's good that have taken it while others wouldn't give it to their worst enemy.
If I do this stack I was thinking about taking the supporting supplements with it. For instance starting a week before the stack and along side with the stack:
-Perfect Cycle ed along with a seperate 1200mg Milk Thistle pills
-RYR
-CoQ10
Also, this is when I will stop taking the Tribulus, DHEA, and Creatine. I will only stay on the Protein Powder/Bars, Glutamine, Multi-Vita., and NO-Explode during the cycle.
Is there any other supporting supplements I should take or substitute for?
Next is the PCT. From only a few days reading up on PCT's there have been wayyyy to many mixed reviews/concerns on what to take, how much to take, how long to take it, don't take an "ai" with a "atd." Basically I want only an experienced/knowledgable person from EXPERIENCE first hand to tell me or critique, not from what Joe Schumkatelly told you!
My PCT plan:
-Nolvadex or Clomid
-Rebound XT or POst Cycle by IDS
-Chrysin
-DHEA and Tribulus
-CoQ10
-Starting up the Creatine again
I really don't know crap about PCT's in the past all the illegal roid heads swore by Nolva or Clomid. PCT has come a long way since I last knew about it. So don't rip me a new one if I wrote up a wrong PCT. My main concern is I want to keep most of what I made in those 4 weeks and I don't want any chance of Gyno!
Thanks guys,
"Nitemare"
