Beebab's LOG OF: MASS FX/ HX2/ R2 + INCARNATE/ LEVIATHAN & support

beebab said:
Morning weight was 202 today. I have a ways to go on this cycle too, so I'm hoping to add another 8 lbs to that. I'd like to get up to 210, maybe 215. At this point I really dont care what percentage of that weight is water weight or fat. My diet has been very clean and the creatine mono is helping add weight. But post cycle I will be running Leviathan w Incarnate to shed that excess weight and expose whatever muscle weight I gain.

I think I'm going to take 2 caps of FX and Hx2 pre workout, rather than just 1 cap of Hx2. See how that works.
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Sounds like a good plan! :thumbsup:
 
7/24 workout

DAMN IT!!! My comp eff'd up after I had just finished typing EVERYTHING b4 so I lost my post... now I gotta do it all again.

Workout today wasn't bad, but I felt tired... so i wasn't totally on my game. Endurance wise I felt pretty good, strength wise wasn't bad but not excellent.

Legs:
warm-ups...
squat, bar x 20, 135 x 15
leg ext 55 x 12

deep squat:
225 x 15
275 x 12
315 x 4 ***note, I could only go down about 65 degrees or so w/ 315 bc I didn't want my back to tighten up. I was able to go down pretty far w 275, so I'm working my way back up. I think next week I'll go 295.
185 x 15, ass to grass

leg press (close stance) superset w/ leg ext:
575 x 15, 70 x 6
755 x 10. *some lady was using the leg ext so I had to improvise w/ hack squats... empty rack, 95 x 10

395 x 15 (wide stance), 55 x 8

deep hack squat, superset w/ leg curl:
270 x 12, 100 x15
180 x 20, 100 x 10

smith calf raises, one big superset... toes straight/ out/ in:
warm up 135 x 12
315 x 15, 10, 225 x 6

Seated calf press:
400 x 15
550 x 10, drop down 450 x 5, 300 x 3

Post workout I supplemented w a tblespoon creatine mono (the box says a heaping tspoon, but I do a tblespoon regardless).

How does this dosing protocol sound to you guys?

WAKE UP: 2 caps FX, 1 Hx2, 1 R2
4 hours later: 1 cap FX, 1 Hx2, 1 R2
Pre workout: 2 caps FX, 2 caps Hx2, 1 R2, 3 Incarnate
Post workout: 1 Hx2, 3 Incarnate
 
beebab said:
WAKE UP: 2 caps FX, 1 Hx2, 1 R2
4 hours later: 1 cap FX, 1 Hx2, 1 R2
Pre workout: 2 caps FX, 2 caps Hx2, 1 R2, 3 Incarnate
Post workout: 1 Hx2, 3 Incarnate
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Looks Good! one small modification: do the R2 one pre and one post........:thumbsup:
 
macedaddy said:
it will, but then the postworkout one, protects against rebound.......
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makes sense to me. i hadn't been doing it that way til now, I was taking my second serving 4 hrs after wake up, then my next pre workout. how significantly will my post workout meal reduce cortisol levels?
 
7/25 workout

I felt GREAT tn. Normally I'd take off today, but due to a change of plans in my schedule I'll be going to the beach tm and will not lift.

When I started out doing shoulders, even the warm up weights felt kind of heavy... but once I actually started going "heavy" the "heavy" weights felt lighter...

Shoulders:
dumbbell press:
warmup... 45 x 15, 55 x 12

75 x 12
90 x 4
80 x 8

upright rows superset w/ arnold press:
95 x 10, 60 x 8
135 x 10, 70 x 4

Lat raises, triple drop set:
50 x 8, 35 x 6, 25 x 12

Front plate raises:
35 x 10
45 x 10

Traps:
Shrug machine:
warm up, 295 x 10

700 x 10 >> 295 x 10

Smith shrugs, triple drop:
365 x 4 >> 315 x 6 >> 225 x 6

Triceps:
weighted dips:
BW x 12
BW + 45 x 8
BW + 90 x 5 -- PR
BW x 20

Close grip bench, superset w/ EZ bar french press:
185 x 10, 95 x 8

Close grip bench, superset w/ rope extensions:
225 x 4, 145 x 10

I'd say this was a very good workout personally. Endurance was very good, as was strength. I'd really like to start seeing some mass gains, hopefully those will come. Otherwise I feel fantastic.

Hopefully tm I can even out this effin farmer's tan :lol:
 
beebab said:
makes sense to me. i hadn't been doing it that way til now, I was taking my second serving 4 hrs after wake up, then my next pre workout. how significantly will my post workout meal reduce cortisol levels?
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Cortisol is released in response to stress to generate fuel for the body to react with. The more stress you create via weight training/cardio, the more cortisol gets released. So there are a lot of factors that play into that. For one, it depends on how much of a stress you create on your body. For example, on days that you train legs, because of the great amount of energy it requires to move those heavy weights while squatting/leg pressing, more cortisol is released compared to when you train biceps. Also, it depends on if you do a heavy cardio session after training, which is yet again another stressor and will likely add to the release of cortisol. It also depends on how many grams of simple sugars you're taking in with your post-workout meal. 20g of simple sugars won't lower cortisol levels nearly as much as 60g of simple sugars.

So, given those factors it is really hard to say. I believe that a solid post workout meal of 50g whey protein and 60g of simple sugars will be enough to blunt the effects of cortisol. Follow that meal up 1.5-2 hours later with another high protein meal (solid food this time) and complex carbs and you should be solid. However, it may not necessarily lower it/reduce to total count of cortisol. So while food consumption will help to blunt the effects of cortisol, Retain2 will be able to actually reduce its presence.

If your workouts are extremely exhausting to you, I would take Retain2 both before and after working out, along with a solid post workout meal. If you're in a post cycle therapy, I would definitely take one cap pre and one cap post workout.
 
Biceps said:
Cortisol is released in response to stress to generate fuel for the body to react with. The more stress you create via weight training/cardio, the more cortisol gets released. So there are a lot of factors that play into that. For one, it depends on how much of a stress you create on your body. For example, on days that you train legs, because of the great amount of energy it requires to move those heavy weights while squatting/leg pressing, more cortisol is released compared to when you train biceps. Also, it depends on if you do a heavy cardio session after training, which is yet again another stressor and will likely add to the release of cortisol. It also depends on how many grams of simple sugars you're taking in with your post-workout meal. 20g of simple sugars won't lower cortisol levels nearly as much as 60g of simple sugars.

So, given those factors it is really hard to say. I believe that a solid post workout meal of 50g whey protein and 60g of simple sugars will be enough to blunt the effects of cortisol. Follow that meal up 1.5-2 hours later with another high protein meal (solid food this time) and complex carbs and you should be solid. However, it may not necessarily lower it/reduce to total count of cortisol. So while food consumption will help to blunt the effects of cortisol, Retain2 will be able to actually reduce its presence.

If your workouts are extremely exhausting to you, I would take Retain2 both before and after working out, along with a solid post workout meal. If you're in a post cycle therapy, I would definitely take one cap pre and one cap post workout.
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Thanks for answering my question Biceps. And I understand the logic here. My diet has always been pretty good... post workout I eat 3 slices white bread, which I just upped to 4, along w 40-50 g protein (30 whey protein, 15 ish from bread), then an hr later I have a full meal w protein, complex carbs and healthy omega 3s. But I want to make the most out of each supplement I take. If I start to get leaner now that I'm taking the R2 pre and post then I'll def know I was doing it wrong before.
 
7/27 workout

Up 10 lbs and counting...

Workout today was very good. I was tired coming home from wrk... mainly cuz business was dead and I sat on my ass for 9 hrs... but I perked up after taking supps.

The guy who used to manage the GNC I work at when it was a franchise ordered a variety of unique products... ppl still seem to think the now corporate store is still a franchise, so we were sent a box of this pre workout energy formula we don't normally sell. So..... I got to keep it all haha :lol: It's supposedly an all natural pre workout energy enhancer, enriched w B-vitamins and zero caffeine. I tried it w my Leucine formula and it perked me up really quickly.

Did back today...

Back:
warm-ups....

underhanded pull down:
205 x 8
250 x 8
305 x 6 --- PR

Wide grip T Bar:
135 x 12
225 x 6 + 2 assisted
270 x 5 (some assistance for fluid reps)
180 x 8

Underhanded bent over row:
135 x 12
225 x 10
265 x 8

Dumbbell row, triple drop set:
125 x 8 >> 100 x 8 >> 75 x 8

Incline dumbbell row, superset w/ lat push downs:
100 x 8, 100 x 15

Forearms:
**I just did a few light sets to stimulate the muscles. These were mostly like supersets, w little rest btw sets. I wanted to move quickly.

underhand bar curl:
bar x 20
overhand bar curl:
bar x 15
underhand:
bar x 15
overhand:
bar x 10

Overall, I think today was very productive. For the next couple weeks I'm considering varying my rep ranges and doing 5 rep sets for most heavy compound movements... just to get my strength up. Heavy sets compounded w lower volume supersets.
 
7/30 workout - Chest & Biceps

Today for chest I focused on more of a strength building type workout, doing fewer total sets but much higher volume. Most of my compound sets focused on 5 reps max, pyramiding up.

Chest:
warm-ups...
bar x 25
30 lb flyes x 15

flat bench:
185 x 15
265 x 5
285 x 5 (the trainer spotting me told me i def got 3 1/2, but that he only helped a little on the last two to keep them fluid motion) - PR
295 x 3 + 2 assisted - PR
185 x 15

Barbell incline, 45 degrees:
205 x 5
225 x 3 + 1 assisted

Weighted dip, superset w/ flat flye:
BW + 45 lbs x 6, 60 x 8

**that was all I did for chest. Since I went higher I was already burned out from all the pressing and didn't want to overtrain.

Biceps:
barbell curl, superset w/ alt dumbbell hammers:
bar x 10
95 x 8, 40 x 10
115 x 7, 45 x 8

Dumbbell preachers, drop set:
55 x 5, 40 x 5

After 3 heavy supersets I was done all together. This workout was very good I think. I'm always suspicious of my accomplishments w new weights, whenever somebody is spotting me, bc I never know how significantly they helped while spotting. But I'm going to trust what the trainer told me.

I'm eager to boost my strength, so fairly shortly I think I may shy away from more of a bodybuilding routine and attempt a powerlifting hybrid. As of now, I'm not really following a set program as much as I'm trying just to stimulate my muscles each workout into hypertrophy. My strength as been going up week after week, but I'd like to start following more of an established program to see quantifiable results.

Any thoughts/ ideas on my training methods, and /or how I can improve upon them are appreciated.
 
8/1 workout - legs, abs

Today's workout was very good. I took yesterday off bc I really didn't feel like lifting very much, so I deferred doing legs til today. Strength felt good, endurance was very good.

I just got my second bottle of Incarnate the other day, and I reverted back to taking 4 caps instead of 3 in one serving. I gotta say... I really did sense a difference today, especially in my latter sets. The B-Alanine/ Creatine Mono combo works very nicely.

Legs:
warm-up on the eliptical
leg press:
395 x 12 -- warmup
575 x 15
755 x 12
935 x 8
1025 x 10
** I coulda kept going on most of those sets, but I didn't want to work til total failure.

Deep hack squat:
270 x 12
270 x 12
180 x 20

Leg ext (focusing on slow reps):
85 x 10
85 x 8, drop down >> 55 x 4
70 x 10 >> 40 x 5 >> 10 x 3

Smith lunges, superset w/ LB curls:
135 x 10, BW x 20
95 x 12, BW x 20

leg curls:
105 x 20
115 x 15

following legs, i did a bunch of ab work. like i said, endurance was extremely high this workout. i'm nearing the end of the mass fx stack. soon will begin leviathan a week or so after everything runs out.

weight was 206 lbs this morning :thumbsup: up 11 lbs since i started.
 
beebab said:
haha thanks bro. grant it, idk how much of that is water weight. but aside from the expected water ring on my lower belly i dnt feel watery or fat. i actually feel pretty lean and full
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the hyperdrol should help you dry out.....
 
beebab said:
haha thanks bro. grant it, idk how much of that is water weight. but aside from the expected water ring on my lower belly i dnt feel watery or fat. i actually feel pretty lean and full
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The whole water weight thing really is amusing to me, yes I know in some cases there is bloat, but really let's talk about how much of your muscle / body is water? :toofunny:

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8/2 workout - shoulders/ triceps

strength was really up on tonight's workout :thumbsup: i read an article today that discussed how preworkout stretching is potentially counterproductive and can reduce strength levels. so i just did a few more warmups instead...

Shoulders:
dumbbell press:
30 x 20 - warmup
40 x 15 - warmup
45 x 15 - warmup

80 x 10
90 x 8
100 x 4

standing military press:
bar x 12
135 x 10
155 x 5

plate front raise, superset w/ lat raise:
45 x 10, 30 x 10

Arnold press, superset w/ lat raise:
65 x 7, 30 x 10

Arnold press, dropset:
70 x 4, 55 x 2

Triceps:
Dips:
BW x 12
BW + 45 x 8
BW + 90 x 3

Rope ext:
170 x 8
200 x 4

CGB, superset w/ V BAR pushdowns:
205 x 5, 65 x 12
185 x 6, 80 x 9

i'd say my tricep power was a little lower than usual, but I exerted myself quite a lot with shoulders. I'm very pleased with tonight's workout. pressing the 80s was nothing, I felt like I could've easily gotten a few more reps w/o help. I just barely got 8 w 90 on my own. Next week I'll up the weight and go to 100s w/o much wait.
 
8/3 workout - back, traps, calves

so i'm nearing the end of my first stack :( but a week or so after I finish I have yet another to look forward to haha.

i really didn't feel like lifting today, this morning. it was 78 degrees in my house last night and I had mad hot flashes for the longest time, I went to bed at 1 and couldn't fall asleep til 3. then I had to wake up at 9 for work at 10. it was bad...

but i mustered up the energy tn to do heavy back and traps, and I had a pretty decent lift.

Back:
warm-ups....

Underhanded bent over row:
135 x 12
245 x 5
275 x 5
295 x 5
315 x 3
225 x 12

Dumbbell row:
125 x 10
125 x 8

Incline dumbbell row:
110 x 8

Widegrip lat pulldown, concentrated reps:
205 x 5
175 x 6

Traps:
barbell shrug:
bar x 15
225 x 8
265 x 8
185 x 12

dumbbell shrug:
85 x 8
100 x 6

Calves:
smith calf raises, dropset:
405 x 12 >> 315 x 6 >> 225 x 5

It's been about 45 min since I stopped and I still feel pumped, it's great :lol:
I'm going to be making some heavy changes to my lifting routine this weekend, starting next week. Once I finish the FX stack I'll continue supplementing w basic creatine mono for a week or so, then begin my next log on leviathan and Incarnate.

Obviously I will NOT be taking creatine w Leviathan, lest I should waste my money.
 
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