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Incarnate and joints

poison

poison

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I've used several brands of cissus; all are not equal. Has anyone seen good joint relief from incarnate, or is it extracted more for the anabolic effects?
 
I've been using Incarnate for about 1 month now while on a cut. I have to say that I am pretty impressed with the product. I feel recovery time is up and some micro-fractures have healed. In terms of joints I had a spiral fracture in my right arm 6 years ago that cracked right at my elbow and shoulder. Both areas give me problems when lifting by not locking out at times. I have not noticed the usual pain however while on Incarnate. I also didn't notice it while taking the original cissus by USPLabs. Incarnate has beta-Alanine and L-Histidine hcl in addition to a higher extract of ketosterone from the Cissus. You are correct that "all cissus is not created equal"; however, Palo Alto labs produces stand-up products that work. I am using Leviathan and Incarnate with excellent results from both.
 
Poison, THANK YOU for saying that about not all Cissus being created equal bc it is so true. Its all about the extraction and purity. I have used USPLabs and had great results. I have had just as good with the cissus in Incarnate and way more as far as the anabolic effects with the addition of Beta-Alanine.
 
i am on 4th bottle of incarnate, i think that says it all. btw add some bulk cm for really great results. poison i know you are a fan of cordygen5, i think incarnate/bulk cm/c5 would be a fantastic stack.
 
thebigt said:
i am on 4th bottle of incarnate, i think that says it all. btw add some bulk cm for really great results. poison i know you are a fan of cordygen5, i think incarnate/bulk cm/c5 would be a fantastic stack.
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that does sound pretty darn promising.
 
I thought I remember there was supposed to be an even higher extract of cissus.. i'm holding out for that.. I still got a lot of the regular 5% anyway..
 
its the synergy and quality of ingredients that make incarnate so good. ie. my pharmacist keeps telling me theres no difference between brand name and generics, but i alway's feel the brand name works better.
 
thebigt said:
its the synergy and quality of ingredients that make incarnate so good. ie. my pharmacist keeps telling me theres no difference between brand name and generics, but i alway's feel the brand name works better.
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Kill that pharmacist, immediately! :bb3:

LOL
 
propho said:
placebo is a mofo ain't it?
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you're right by the way. if you're used to something working and they throw a generic at you either you get placebo effect or else you're wondering what you did wrong. generics are biggest racket going imo. its like buying a mercedes with a ford engine in it.:lol:
 
thebigt said:
you're right by the way. if you're used to something working and they throw a generic at you either you get placebo effect or else you're wondering what you did wrong. generics are biggest racket going imo. its like buying a mercedes with a ford engine in it.:lol:
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So generic Tylenol and Claritin are no good? Those companies own the patent to their name not the chemical. Loratadine is a chemical nothing more and it is the same chemical in Claritin as in its generic form and is under the same FDA scrutiny for purity. Hospitals choose Tylenol over acetaminophen b/c Tylenol gives them a HUGE out of pocket discount and write it up as "marketing". Generics are less expensive b/c those companies do not exhibit the cost of research and development. Palo Alto labs does not qualify as a generic brand anyway, it is a competitor; as no official licensing rights have been procured by an individual company due to efficacy of the supplement and federal research as well as multiple processing methods. Oh, most importantly...you can't legally own a patent on any one chemical. The "placebo" effect is in taking the brand name product as the only acceptable supplement/drug. You have been brought to the conclusion that only the original product can work, and believe this misinformation entirely.
 
Ive use Super Cissus RX from USP and Incarnate, and my joints felt equally great on both. I just like getting my beta alanine with it, to kill 2 birds with one stone.
 
Bull6125 said:
So generic Tylenol and Claritin are no good? Those companies own the patent to their name not the chemical. Loratadine is a chemical nothing more and it is the same chemical in Claritin as in its generic form and is under the same FDA scrutiny for purity. Hospitals choose Tylenol over acetaminophen b/c Tylenol gives them a HUGE out of pocket discount and write it up as "marketing". Generics are less expensive b/c those companies do not exhibit the cost of research and development. Palo Alto labs does not qualify as a generic brand anyway, it is a competitor; as no official licensing rights have been procured by an individual company due to efficacy of the supplement and federal research as well as multiple processing methods. Oh, most importantly...you can't legally own a patent on any one chemical. The "placebo" effect is in taking the brand name product as the only acceptable supplement/drug. You have been brought to the conclusion that only the original product can work, and believe this misinformation entirely.
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ok, i was defending incarnate and PAL as being a stand up brand name. i would be the last one to defame PAL. im on 4th bottle of incarnate. a ford will get you there, but a mercedes will do it BETTER. just kidding. peace bro.
 
thebigt said:
ok, i was defending incarnate and PAL as being a stand up brand name. i would be the last one to defame PAL. im on 4th bottle of incarnate. a ford will get you there, but a mercedes will do it BETTER. just kidding. peace bro.
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Haha, Peace. Touchy subject for me. Sorry, about the "kick in the balls".
 
ive got a 4 year old grandson. enough said!:trout:
 
Guys,

The "generic" term that your pharmacist was referring to, does not fit in a coversation dealing with supplements.

For pharmaceuticals, your pharmacist is completely correct. Not just the chemical compound is the same but also the specifications are the same, although the inactive ingredients might be different which is something to consider, especially for transdermal applications (e.g. allergies). They should also proved that the drug delivery is completely comparable to the brand name.

In the quite unregulated supplement industry you have people misusing these terms since they just care about the chemical compund thay are using.
 
william3162 said:
Guys,

The "generic" term that your pharmacist was referring to, does not fit in a coversation dealing with supplements.

For pharmaceuticals, your pharmacist is completely correct. Not just the chemical compound is the same but also the specifications are the same, although the inactive ingredients might be different which is something to consider, especially for transdermal applications (e.g. allergies). They should also proved that the drug delivery is completely comparable to the brand name.

In the quite unregulated supplement industry you have people misusing these terms since they just care about the chemical compund thay are using.
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no, i cant agree with you. the chemical name might be the same, but i am telling you flat out there is a big difference in pharmaceuticals. and there the disagreement ends, cause if theres a difference in regulated drugs imagine the crap some companys get away with in the supplement industry. PAL is one of a FEW companys i know i can trust. axis, controlled labs, and nimbus are among the few, and i mean few companies that i trust to get what i am supposed to get. sorry about preaching but i feel strongly about this.
 
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