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?s Boldabol/equipoise newbie help ?!

wilburfierce

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I am new here , and beginning my 1st cycle of Bold After several yrs research I have chsen Bold. and have ?s . ( EPO scares me and is too damn expensive anyway !)
Background : I am 51 . Have been a top level amateur ( oxymoron ? ) triathlete , and racing cyclist , for over 20 yrs . Have previously been " 100% natural " . But for the past several years I have lost the " aggression" that drove me to attack in competition . Also find it hard to maintain strength , impossible to gain :whiner: . My bloodwork still shows my test. in the upper norm range . I figure I have only a few more yrs of good racing , ( 50+ is last category in amateur cycling ) . Thus my decision to try some assistance via " science/ medicine".
So my objectives are not mass but strength and endurance , w/ minimal risk & sides .
Took my 1st inj last week ( 1ml @ 200mg/ml , " british dragon " ) . Maybe mental , but could swear I feel some of the old aggression coming back already .
In scouring posts here re. Bold. several ?s arise :
1) what the hell is " pump" ? its in half the threads , but a search of the word yields 1000 results none of which pertain !? ( soreness @ inj site ?) , I had a little , not bad , but it is thick ! barely do- able w/ 25g .
2) Is thinning a possibility ?
3) most threads recc 400mg/ week ? ( opinions in my case appreciated ) what about 200 mg 2x/ week ?
4) would like to hear from other cyclists / endurance athletes on bold and or other programs .

thanks all !

wil

...his mind crawling with cobras, not daring to dream or think and powerless not to, his cries were of two kinds , those having no other cause than moral anguish and those by means of which he hoped to forestall same . Physical pain , on the contrary seemed to help him greatly . Samuel Beckett
 
run bold at LEAST 400 mg has to be run for at LEAST 10 weeks..add low dose test in there 250 wk should be fine..ive ran endurance while back in skool on 500mg test/wk and it did did not negatively impact my lap times in any way and i put on weight.. plus you will love how you feel on it, bold(eq) has been known to cause overall uneasiness.ps bold increases your appetite pretty strongly just in cae you were trying to remain the same weight..o and da pump..watch arnolds movie pumping iron he'll tell u
 
Thanks ! How will I feel ? Am I dreaming about " how I feel as I 1st mentioned in prev post my 2nd week on EQ ? Any specific Test. you'd recommend ?( transdermal ? ). My objectives are just gain strength , lean muscle , endurance , with NO ( or very little weight gain )
 
wilburfierce said:
Thanks ! How will I feel ? Am I dreaming about " how I feel as I 1st mentioned in prev post my 2nd week on EQ ? Any specific Test. you'd recommend ?( transdermal ? ). My objectives are just gain strength , lean muscle , endurance , with NO ( or very little weight gain )
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Eq is a good choice for your goals but i hope you realize-
eq isnt known as a massive strength builder
it takes 8 weeks to "kick in"
you need to use at LEAST 400mgs/week
you need to run testosterone with it....or
youre goign to feel a bit "loopy"


eq is really one of the most mild steroids out there. if youre worried about hair loss, pikc up some NIZORAL shampoo. you can get it in any supermarket that has a hair product section.

and as for the testosterone, id suggest 250mgs of testosterone enanthate or cypionate. there is almost no difference between enanthate and cypionate esters in terms of release and length of activity.

run 250mgs a week. thats only 1 injection every monday, and that gives you only twice a normal males testosterone. no massive weight gain, no massive bloat.
 
jomi822 said:
Eq is a good choice for your goals but i hope you realize-
eq isnt known as a massive strength builder
it takes 8 weeks to "kick in"
you need to use at LEAST 400mgs/week
you need to run testosterone with it....or
youre goign to feel a bit "loopy"

eq is really one of the most mild steroids out there. if youre worried about hair loss, pikc up some NIZORAL shampoo. you can get it in any supermarket that has a hair product section.

and as for the testosterone, id suggest 250mgs of testosterone enanthate or cypionate. there is almost no difference between enanthate and cypionate esters in terms of release and length of activity.

run 250mgs a week. thats only 1 injection every monday, and that gives you only twice a normal males testosterone. no massive weight gain, no massive bloat.
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take the comments in bold with a grain of salt. they are this guy's experiences/opinions. you should do your own research on these chemicals, either first hand or by reading more.
 
same_old said:
take the comments in bold with a grain of salt. they are this guy's experiences/opinions. you should do your own research on these chemicals, either first hand or by reading more.
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fair enough, but its certainly outlines the potentials for him.


also, i have never experienced the paranoia and anxiousness (loopy) that some people experience on boldenone.

also, 200mgs of boldenone is really just not enough for an effective cycle...cmon. thats twice as much anabolism as testosterone and the same amount androgenic effect. Less, as a matter of fact, due to the ester weight.
 
i would run the eq at least 12 weeks if not longer like said above you wont start seeing gains till like week 8 it would be stupid to run it only 10 weeks.. im running it right now for 15 weeks if not longer...
 
thanks for all the info . is the 250 test. safe w/ my liver elev ( 1st post) ? If so what about transderm .
on 3rd week and I've had wierd vaguely flu like feeling last 2 day after inj . Also insomnia and jiggey legs ( some call cramps )
Anyone had that ?
 
yes the 250 test should be ok with your liver. its not a methyl and its not mega dosed.

youre experiencing a combination of "test flu" and secondary polycythemia (high percentage of red blood cells). its perfectly normal and can take anywhere from a day to a week to pass. if you start getting itchy all over, get shooting pains in your hands, arms or legs when extending them, or react strangely to hot water (redness, rash) than you need to take a couple hundred milligrams of aspirin to combat the high red blood cell count. no biggie
 
jomi822 said:
youre experiencing a combination of "test flu" and secondary polycythemia (high percentage of red blood cells).
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test flu with equipoise?

high RBC is definitely common with EQ (that's kind of the point), but i didnt know it could cause the effects he's getting....especially after only 2 weeks of an incredibly long estered injection. i suspect, seeing how it lasts just a few days after injection, that it's a reaction to the solvents, usually BA but sometimes BB. BD is a UGL after all.

make sure you aspirate; you may have just knicked a vein and gotten some solvent in your bloodstream.

anyway, we aren't doctors. if you're genuinely worried, go see one....and good luck explaining yourself :)
 
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