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Tren/Ergo/superdrol 8 week pulse cycle

Please excuse my ignorance...but what is Voodoo's Cooling Method? Also, do you think you've gained anything (i.e., can you see a difference) in your body yet via this method? I ask because, as I said in a previous post, I'm gonna jack the hell out of this method, so I'm paying close attention. Thanks...83
 
I just remembered I never posted up stats These were in my notebook but I forgot all about it.

Starting Stats:
6'4
235lbs
12% BF

Chest: 45.5in
Arms: 17in Flexed 15 not
Thighs: 26in
Calves: 16in
Neck: 17in
Waist 38in

Sorry for the delay and pictures don't look much different than they did when I logged the HDX2
 
ex-tightend83 said:
Please excuse my ignorance...but what is Voodoo's Cooling Method? Also, do you think you've gained anything (i.e., can you see a difference) in your body yet via this method? I ask because, as I said in a previous post, I'm gonna jack the hell out of this method, so I'm paying close attention. Thanks...83
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The method is nothing speical u take a frozen bottle of water and rub it on ur body to cool it back down. My body temp is really high during workouts while on this stuff.

The only thing I have noticed a big difference is muslce hardness.
 
rickeepoo1 said:
Do you plan any post cycle therapy with your pulse cycle?
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At first I didn't plan on any. I will be taking Advanced PCT/Retain 2 on off days when it gets here. But if I encounter shutdown I will run Torem and the Mass Stack. Hell I just might run that anyway. But if all goes as planned I should not have any issues.
 
I'm gonna watch and see how ya do...I'm planning another cycle in six or eight weeks. I'm thinking of running a Testanate-50 8-week pulse cycle (maybe with Novedex XT on off days). My post cycle therapy would be like a week of low dosages (20mg split morning/night) of Nolvadex.

What do you think of that?
 
rickeepoo1 said:
I'm gonna watch and see how ya do...I'm planning another cycle in six or eight weeks. I'm thinking of running a Testanate-50 8-week pulse cycle (maybe with Novedex XT on off days). My post cycle therapy would be like a week of low dosages (20mg split morning/night) of Nolvadex.

What do you think of that?
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What is testanate-50? SD type of clone? I liked Novedex-XT when I used it but I will stick with 6-Bromo for AI;s. Alot of neg feedback on ATD;s although I never had issues with it. I don't know much about Nolva besides it being good for gyno. I believe Torem is a better all around SERM esp for shutdown, I think its less toxic too. I would ask Dr.D about this. He said SERM's aren;t needed but if u do use make sure u have some cycle support to run with it.
 
The only reason that I'm thinking about running a SERM for a week is because Testanate-50 is Superdrol/PP/Finigenx all in one (I know that it's two methyl's but I figure that pulsing it would be OK).

The other reason that I'm leaning toward a SERM is because my 'pulse' cycle would, most likely, consist of four doses per week (maybe a half dose on the fourth day).

Like I said...I'm still kinda recovering from my halodrol clone (I know you read some of that drama regarding my not using a SERM for post cycle therapy in the other thread) so my next cycle is still in the planning stage.

I think I will send a PM to Dr.D....
 
rickeepoo1 said:
The only reason that I'm thinking about running a SERM for a week is because Testanate-50 is Superdrol/PP/Finigenx all in one (I know that it's two methyl's but I figure that pulsing it would be OK).

The other reason that I'm leaning toward a SERM is because my 'pulse' cycle would, most likely, consist of four doses per week (maybe a half dose on the fourth day).

Like I said...I'm still kinda recovering from my halodrol clone (I know you read some of that drama regarding my not using a SERM for post cycle therapy in the other thread) so my next cycle is still in the planning stage.

I think I will send a PM to Dr.D....
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Its all good, I don;t believe in running SERM's for all PH;s but with SD or one like ur going to run I would. But with pulsing u should not have any shutdown. But u never know. I will have some on hand just in case. I will be running 2 methyl in the 2nd part of the pulse.
 
You mean the Ergo Max LMG and the Superdrol, right? I'm anxious to see how that works out for you. This way, I'll at least know what to expect. I also got some Incarnate by Palo Alto Labs. Have to see if it's as good as or better than Super Cissus-Rx (I was really impressed with that!). I'm giving Palo Alto Labs a second chance...Paravol was OK, but I didn't see the HUGE loads that some claimed. We shall see...By the way, have you gotten the Retain 2 and HDx2 to take on your "off" days yet?
 
Pulse day 8. 20mg of ErgoMax-LMG/ 20mg Superdrol

I must say tonight's workout was great.

Back:
Rack Deads: 6 sets up 495lbs for 5 reps. I little lower than last time.
BB Rows: 6 sets up 275lbs for 7 reps.
HS Pulldowns: 4 sets of 3 plates on each for 7 reps
supersetted
Machine Rows: 4 sets of 180lbs for 10 reps

Traps:
Barbell Shurgs: 5 sets up to 405lbs for 8 reps
supersetted
Behind the back shurgs: 5 sets of 225lbs for 10 reps

Forearms:
Hammer Curls: 5 sets of 60lbs for 10 reps I did 90lbs just for the hell of it I got 3 reps

Wrist Curls: 5 sets of 75lbs of 50 rest pause style.

Notes:
Strength was better on some lifts
Pumps were great and they didn't hinder my workout
Slight Aggression.
Nice viens in the arms and right shoulder
Sex drive is way up!!!!
 
ex-tightend83 said:
You mean the Ergo Max LMG and the Superdrol, right? I'm anxious to see how that works out for you. This way, I'll at least know what to expect. I also got some Incarnate by Palo Alto Labs. Have to see if it's as good as or better than Super Cissus-Rx (I was really impressed with that!). I'm giving Palo Alto Labs a second chance...Paravol was OK, but I didn't see the HUGE loads that some claimed. We shall see...By the way, have you gotten the Retain 2 and HDx2 to take on your "off" days yet?
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Yes I am taking the ErgoMax-LMG, I ordered Advanced PCT by AX and Retain 2. I got them in yesterday, mad props to the very very fast service from Nutraplanet.
 
Thanks for the info on the Advanced PCT by AX (will buy it!), but I'm a bit confused. In the beginning, you said that you would be using the Ergo Max LMG from weeks 4-8, yet I see you used 20 mg of it yesterday on Pulse day 8! Did you change your mind from the Mega-TRN? Please let me know because I am following your stack to the letter! Thanks...83:type: :study: :wave:
 
ex-tightend83 said:
Thanks for the info on the Advanced post cycle therapy by AX (will buy it!), but I'm a bit confused. In the beginning, you said that you would be using the Ergo Max LMG from weeks 4-8, yet I see you used 20 mg of it yesterday on Pulse day 8! Did you change your mind from the Mega-TRN? Please let me know because I am following your stack to the letter! Thanks...83:type: :study: :wave:
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Yeah I changed my mind, I confused a few at another site I post at lol sorry. I have always wanted to use Ergo. My plan was to run Ergo/SD for 8 weeks but then I got some TRN and wanted to try it out.

Sorry for the confusion.
 
So now you're gonna do the rest of the stack with just the Ergo Max and the SD? Did you NOT like something about the Mega-TRN? Do you think I should still follow your original plan of the Mega-TRN from weeks 1-4, or get another bottle of Ergo Max and do a straight 8-week run with SD? Please advise. Right now I'm leaning towards your original plan. :study: :think: Thank you in advance for all of your help.
 
ex-tightend83 said:
So now you're gonna do the rest of the stack with just the Ergo Max and the superdrol? Did you NOT like something about the Mega-TRN? Do you think I should still follow your original plan of the Mega-TRN from weeks 1-4, or get another bottle of Ergo Max and do a straight 8-week run with SD? Please advise. Right now I'm leaning towards your original plan. :study: :think: Thank you in advance for all of your help.
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I liked the effects I was getting from the TRN. I would go with the original plan. I have 2 bottles so I will prob pulse it again with something else. I just really wanted to use the Ergo lol.
 
Pulse day 9. 20mg Ergo 20mg of Superdrol

I don't know why I posted a workout sched cause I am always changing things up.

Chest & Biceps

Incline Flyes: 5 sets of 65lb for 9 reps
Flat DB Bench: 5 sets of 100lbs for 8 reps. Down 15lbs
HS Press: 4 sets of 4 plates on each side for 9 reps
Peck Deck: 4 sets of 120lbs for 15 reps

Biceps:
Barbell Curls: 5 sets of 115lbs for 10 reps
Cable Preacher: 4 sets of 150lbs then a drop set to the bottom of the stack
Standing DB curls: 3 sets of 55 for 8 reps then down the rack to failure

Workout was ok. Weights are up and down. So numbers were higher while others are lower. Having some issues with feeling like I am going to puke. My workouts have been heavier and more intense in past without this feeling. Any ideas? Dr.D? I have been taking Papaya before and it has helped to some degree.

Notes:
Libido is up big time!!!
Very nice pumps
Strength was up and down. Could be due to the workout.
Acne coming and going. Nothing major.
Joints are hurting a little.
 
Try some Super Cissus-Rx by USP Labs or Palo Alto Labs' Incarnate for your joints. This should help to alleviate the pain. The Super Cissus-Rx actually worked very well for me. Not only do I have bad knees from football and basketball, but my elbows were hurting from lifting heavy. After a few doses of the Cissus, the pain was virtually gone! Great stuff!
 
I will be hitting the gym tomorrow. My wife's grandfather passed away thursday night so thats what I have been dealing with the last few days. Everything will be back on track tomorrow
 
Good looking cycle man, I didn't even realize your were pulsing also. So how are the gains looking... I've definitly lost some fat, and all my lifts are up. I'm starting on my 4th week and am transitioning into SD with a higher dose of havoc. Gotta love the libido increase!!
 
UNCfan1 said:
I will be hitting the gym tomorrow. My wife's grandfather passed away thursday night so thats what I have been dealing with the last few days. Everything will be back on track tomorrow
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im sorry to hear that UNCfan, my condolences to your wife and yourself, odd on the same day i brought a life into this world.... crazy place this is.
 
Sorry to hear that, uncfan. Congrats, poopy!
 
I've been following your threads on this cycle and in Dr. D's "Pulsing" thread. Looks like your making solid gains, keep it up.

I did get lost about you not wanting to do Kilosports Trenadrol. I have Kilosports Trenadrol and Revolt and was looking to do a similar cycle like yours. At first I was going to do it 6 weeks max everyday; hopefully with the minimal dose and slowly tappering it up. I'm curious and concerned if I can run the 2 compounds together and if I do, should pulsing it be a better way to avoind sides? If you wasn't doing the Superdrol, would you have taken just the MAX LMG and TRN at the same time??
 
chleric said:
I've been following your threads on this cycle and in Dr. D's "Pulsing" thread. Looks like your making solid gains, keep it up.

I did get lost about you not wanting to do Kilosports Trenadrol. I have Kilosports Trenadrol and Revolt and was looking to do a similar cycle like yours. At first I was going to do it 6 weeks max everyday; hopefully with the minimal dose and slowly tappering it up. I'm curious and concerned if I can run the 2 compounds together and if I do, should pulsing it be a better way to avoind sides? If you wasn't doing the Superdrol, would you have taken just the MAX LMG and TRN at the same time??
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Yes I was going to do the Ergomax/TRN or Tren together. But after reading everything on pulsing and I wanted to use some SD Dr.D and I put that together.

If I am not mstaken Revolt is close to Ergo? Either way u run I think u will be happy with ur results. I wanted to pulse to avoid having to use PCT and I would be able to run it longer and 4 weeks.

I believe u would def lessen the sides alot if u chose to pulse them compared to running them together.
 
bigschmidt821 said:
trenadrol aint mega trn author lee ray said it him self
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Yeah, from what I gathered no one knows what Trenadrol really is besides it gives u tren like effects. I am no chemist so I have no input on this. I have some but I am not sure if I will use it.
 
Hey, rumpnuts, how ya doin'? Please explain your pulsing method. You're transitioning into SD, meaning you've only been using Havoc so far? Now you're going to "up" the dosage of Havoc? What has your dosage been? And results? Thanks in advance!
 
UNCfan1 said:
Thats awesome, I am happy for u bro. Hopefully I will have a little one soon.
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Be careful what you wish for! My "little" one is 14 years old, 6'3", 260 lbs with a size-14 sneaker!
 
UNCfan1 said:
Yes I was going to do the Ergomax/TRN or Tren together. But after reading everything on pulsing and I wanted to use some superdrol Dr.D and I put that together.

If I am not mstaken Revolt is close to Ergo? Either way u run I think u will be happy with ur results. I wanted to pulse to avoid having to use post cycle therapy and I would be able to run it longer and 4 weeks.

I believe u would def lessen the sides alot if u chose to pulse them compared to running them together.
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Thanks for the reply. I do know if I run both togther, I'll probably supress my levels. I do like your cycle and the "pulsing" method, it seems a lot safer and lesser sides. I'm strongly thinking of pulsing the Trenadrol and Revolt similiar to your cycle. Maybe incorporate D-bols for th full 8 weeks at 50mg/day; not sure if I want to run 3 orals yet.

I'm still trying to understand the pulsing method. You only dose on the days you workout? And on the days you dont workout, do you still need to take Retain, etc.? Or is it just ones preference?
 
chleric said:
Thanks for the reply. I do know if I run both togther, I'll probably supress my levels. I do like your cycle and the "pulsing" method, it seems a lot safer and lesser sides. I'm strongly thinking of pulsing the Trenadrol and Revolt similiar to your cycle. Maybe incorporate D-bols for th full 8 weeks at 50mg/day; not sure if I want to run 3 orals yet.

I'm still trying to understand the pulsing method. You only dose on the days you workout? And on the days you dont workout, do you still need to take Retain, etc.? Or is it just ones preference?
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Exactly. For instance, uncfan is currently pulsing 4x week, on his workout days only (e.g. Mon-Tue-Thurs-Fri). He takes 20 mg of Ergo Max LMG pre-workout, and 20 mg of SD afterwards. On his off days, he takes Retain 2 and AX's Post Cycle Therapy. Get it?
 
ex-tightend83 said:
Exactly. For instance, uncfan is currently pulsing 4x week, on his workout days only (e.g. Mon-Tue-Thurs-Fri). He takes 20 mg of Ergo Max LMG pre-workout, and 20 mg of superdrol afterwards. On his off days, he takes Retain 2 and AX's Post Cycle Therapy. Get it?
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Bingo thats right.
 
ex-tightend83 said:
Hey, rumpnuts, how ya doin'? Please explain your pulsing method. You're transitioning into superdrol, meaning you've only been using Havoc so far? Now you're going to "up" the dosage of Havoc? What has your dosage been? And results? Thanks in advance!
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I've been loging it from the start... , I'm acctually transitioning from PP, had a little left from a past cycle so I decided to use it up for this one. you can check it out here...

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Rumpnuts said:
I've been loging it from the start... , I'm acctually transitioning from PP, had a little left from a past cycle so I decided to use it up for this one. you can check it out here...

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Rumpnuts, thank you very much!
 
ex-tightend83 said:
Exactly. For instance, uncfan is currently pulsing 4x week, on his workout days only (e.g. Mon-Tue-Thurs-Fri). He takes 20 mg of Ergo Max LMG pre-workout, and 20 mg of superdrol afterwards. On his off days, he takes Retain 2 and AX's Post Cycle Therapy. Get it?
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Got it...thanks! What if you dont take any AI's on the off days? I know it can only be beneficial, but I'm trying to understand to get it right. I've done some cycles in the past, but this is all new to me.
 
chleric said:
Got it...thanks! What if you dont take any AI's on the off days? I know it can only be beneficial, but I'm trying to understand to get it right. I've done some cycles in the past, but this is all new to me.
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As Dr.D stated its just extra. Alot of people may not agree with that but I do. It will help prevent shutdown too. If u want to run it now and get the AI later for the cycle that would work too.

The only oral I know that he said it doesn't matter what u do with is M1T its going to shut u down anyway. Helps with the toxicity though.
 
UNCfan1 said:
As Dr.D stated its just extra. Alot of people may not agree with that but I do. It will help prevent shutdown too. If u want to run it now and get the AI later for the cycle that would work too.

The only oral I know that he said it doesn't matter what u do with is M1T its going to shut u down anyway. Helps with the toxicity though.
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I understand, like I said it can only be beneficial. The whole point of pulsing is to do longer cycles, but avoid in getting shutdown and make pct a whole lot easier. I still have 2 bottles of M1T and I dont think I'll ever use it. I did a 3 week cycle and by the end of week 1.5, I could really feel the sides....talk about a "rather dirty compound". Something about it didn't make me feel right; as if my insides were feeling dirty....lol!!!

I'm going to follow your original layout and see what happens. I'll start with the Trenadrol at 30mg/day from weeks 1-4; maybe increase dosage slowly. Then Revolt at 25mg/day weeks 5-8. I'm still thinking of throwing in the D-bols from weeks 1-8; ranging from 30-50mg/day.

Do you take some kind of cycle support? I've read that Dr. D stated it might hinder gains. I appreciate your replies...thanks!
 
chleric said:
I understand, like I said it can only be beneficial. The whole point of pulsing is to do longer cycles, but avoid in getting shutdown and make post cycle therapy a whole lot easier. I still have 2 bottles of M1T and I dont think I'll ever use it. I did a 3 week cycle and by the end of week 1.5, I could really feel the sides....talk about a "rather dirty compound". Something about it didn't make me feel right; as if my insides were feeling dirty....lol!!!

I'm going to follow your original layout and see what happens. I'll start with the Trenadrol at 30mg/day from weeks 1-4; maybe increase dosage slowly. Then Revolt at 25mg/day weeks 5-8. I'm still thinking of throwing in the D-bols from weeks 1-8; ranging from 30-50mg/day.

Do you take some kind of cycle support? I've read that Dr. D stated it might hinder gains. I appreciate your replies...thanks!
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Although I wish all the other PHs were still legal, I'm almost glad M1T is off the market. It was only a matter of time before some people ended up dead. Im sure plenty of high school kids thought it was some mild supp like andro...meanwhile it's the most powerful oral steroid per milligram you'll ever see.
 
chleric said:
I understand, like I said it can only be beneficial. The whole point of pulsing is to do longer cycles, but avoid in getting shutdown and make post cycle therapy a whole lot easier. I still have 2 bottles of M1T and I dont think I'll ever use it. I did a 3 week cycle and by the end of week 1.5, I could really feel the sides....talk about a "rather dirty compound". Something about it didn't make me feel right; as if my insides were feeling dirty....lol!!!

I'm going to follow your original layout and see what happens. I'll start with the Trenadrol at 30mg/day from weeks 1-4; maybe increase dosage slowly. Then Revolt at 25mg/day weeks 5-8. I'm still thinking of throwing in the D-bols from weeks 1-8; ranging from 30-50mg/day.

Do you take some kind of cycle support? I've read that Dr. D stated it might hinder gains. I appreciate your replies...thanks!
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I hate to quote the whole thing lol.

I will be taking cycle support afterwards.
 
Man, what I would do to be able to find some d-bol...sniff....I've never tried it, but I bet it would be a motherf*cker for me! I'd get to 350 with the quickness!
 
Ok time for an update. Days 9 & 10. Today is an off day.

Legs: I really felt like doing them today lol.
Front Squats: 5 sets up 285lbs for 5 reps
Leg Press: 4 sets up 9 plates on each side for 7 reps
SLDL: 4 sets up to 255lbs for 8 reps
Leg Ext.: 4 sets up 200lbs for 9 reps then drop sets
Seated Leg Curl: 4 sets of 180lbs for 9 reps

Standing Calf Raise: 4 sets of 315lbs for 7 reps then drop set to failure

Day 10 Chest

Flat Bench Press: 4 sets up 335lbs for 3 reps PR!
Incline Flyes: 4 sets of 65lbs for 9 reps
Dips: 4 sets of BW plus 25lbs for 6 reps then 1 set of BW for 12
Flat Flyes: 4 sets of 80lbs for 10 reps
supersetted
Cable Crossover: 4 sets of 70lbs for 10 reps

Great works. Today my damn tooth started to kill me again but the pain subsided fast. Keeping it clean helps with the pain.

Notes:
Strength going up!
Endurance is up
Libido still going strong
Harder and fuller
I have some crazy veins popping up, including 3 on my right shoulder while working out

Sides:
Minor aches and pains
A little bit of acne on the shoulders nothing major.

BP is fine!
 
Congrats on your PR, uncfan! That's the kind of s h i t I'm talking about!! I'll be starting my pulsing stack the week after next. I want to make sure I have Retain 2 and AX's Advanced Post Cycle Therapy on hand for my "off days." What do you think about using E-Form (Formestane) either on the off days or the "on" days, right before bed? I'm also going to use fenugreek on my "on" days right after my workout. I can't wait!!
 
ex-tightend83 said:
Congrats on your PR, uncfan! That's the kind of s h i t I'm talking about!! I'll be starting my pulsing stack the week after next. I want to make sure I have Retain 2 and AX's Advanced Post Cycle Therapy on hand for my "off days." What do you think about using E-Form (Formestane) either on the off days or the "on" days, right before bed? I'm also going to use fenugreek on my "on" days right after my workout. I can't wait!!
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I hope u log it. Also post ur results in the thread titled post ur pulse results. Anyway thats a SERM right? I don't know much about it. On off days I am sure it would be fine to use. PM D about it.
 
I'm definitely going to log it. I want others to see what I'm doing, as well as get their input on it. That's definitely not a problem. Now, how do I go about pm'ing Dr. D? I'd love to get some of his advice. The E-Form is an anti-estrogen made by Dermabolics.
 
ex-tightend83 said:
I'm definitely going to log it. I want others to see what I'm doing, as well as get their input on it. That's definitely not a problem. Now, how do I go about pm'ing Dr. D? I'd love to get some of his advice. The E-Form is an anti-estrogen made by Dermabolics.
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Click on his profile and it will say on the left send pm click it and send him a message.
 
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