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1T/4AD vs. Superdrol Knockoff

BigVrunga said:
He's right, jerz912. Congrats on the success, and you look great in your pic - no one is arguing that point. But you havent been in the 'bodybuilding world' or training long enough to see through the hype I dont think.

Just spend some time going through the backlogs of this site - you'll find tons of 'the next big thing' supps that made people 'huge!!' but slowly faded away as the hype surrounding them died down and results for their users, who werent playing into that hype, died down as well.

The placebo effect is a solid factor in how your body will respond to certain stimulus. In short, if you honestly believe you're gonna get huge on the next big supp - you're going to train harder, eat better, etc to try and maximize those gains. Listen to any of the old pros on how big the 'mind-muscle connection' is on seeing positive results...

And just look you're growing! But what's it from - the extra calories + time in the gym - or that $50 bottle with the fancy label?

BV
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Thanks! But I was just trying to say that back then I didn't eat good, I had a ****ty diet but I still blew up! And I know diet is everything!! But ayway are you saying supps are worthless? thanks
 
Thanks! But I was just trying to say that back then I didn't eat good, I had a ****ty diet but I still blew up! And I know diet is everything!! But ayway are you saying supps are worthless? thanks
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No, not at all - there's plenty of supps out there that really do help. But the most they do is add an edge, like maybe 10% on a good day unless you're talking about hormonal stuff.

When you're young, your levels of testosterone levels and growth hormone, etc are at their peak, so its a lot easier to 'not do things right', and still have great gains.

When you get older, you'll realize all the supps in the world wont save you if you dont pay close attention to your diet and training.

Supplements are definitely a valuable addition in helping to achieve your goals, but without proper diet and a good progressive workout plan, you're wasting your money.

BV
 
Work sucks this week, but this is typical.

Day 6: So far I think I am gaining off the superdrol, I dont think the transdermal is fully kicked in yet. That is my fault most likely as I seem to have miss dosed it by cutting my amount in half. I guess it was a brain fart, because the day before I had it figured out correctly. Anyway its all good now.
 
Chicken said:
Work sucks this week, but this is typical.
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If your anything like me you realize that having a ****ty job is better than having no job.

Plus I look at it like this; they pay me good money to do my job. I consider it active recovery time that I can get paid to something I am good at while I eat and grow (that is when I am training). It's just something I do with my time in between doing what I want to do it.

Good catch on the dosing. Should read the label on your bottle. That's probably why it's on there :whip:
 
Thanks B5150 for rubbing the dosing mishap in! :nutkick:

Seriously though, I agree with you on both parts, yes any job is better than homeless for the most part. :)
 
Well after my experience in the gym last night I think I am going to go all natural from here on out. I dont seem to have a problem holding my gaines when not cycling so, I assume I should be able to continue to grow beyond where Im at now without the supps.

I think I understand how people become addicted to steroids now and I dont want to become one. There are a couple of guys in my gym that have shrunk in the last month to virtually no build whatsoever. They were the biggest guys in the gym last month, I mean like 225 - 250 at 5'10'' big, and I cant seem to fathom how they shrank to 175 or less so fast but they did. They arent cut either, same body fat, just less size. Anyway, I am way bigger then these guys even when not cycling, and I dont want to ever feel like I need to cycle to lift. Besides I am not convinced that the stuff I took is anything more than a placebo effect anyhow.
 
The observation of what those guys did to themselves should be a valuable to. Anyone can juice up and get huge. Most of that is all transient if they have now idea how to do a post cycle therapy. I would imagine that the majority of those out there have no idea what that even is is or even how to proceed to do one. Don't blame the juice because the juicer is a moron.

As far as your placebo experience goes I am unsure what you may be referring to. If you have a history of using knock-offs of superdrol then there is no assurance that it was truly superdol. Personally, unless you got it from DS when it was legal I would not trust the source of it at all. As far as your 1-Test/4AD experience goes, if your trusted source tells you it is indeed 1-Test/4AD and he has used it with success then it is a good supply. There were no knock off of that and he likely had a CofC reference from his original supplier back when it was legal to vouch for the quality. You're two weeks into your cycle and in the first week you half dosed it. Transdermal 1-Test/4AD traditionally takes about two weeks to feel the effectiveness when dosed consistently at a full dosing scheme and is why most run more weeks. To expect some dramatic results in a two week period is unrealistic. Persevere of give up but the 1-Test/4AD is not placebo :)
 
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